On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 10:59 -0500, Anthony Papillion wrote:
On 10/28/2010 09:39 AM, Frank Esposito wrote:
We should also include government as well, that seems to be where adoption
is currently high. how about religious organizations?
So we have:
Government (local and National)
Non profit organizations
Education (all grades)
Last year, I pushed hard to get a few of my area rural municipal
governments to adopt OpenOffice. I met with representatives of about 15
small Oklahoma towns and did a few presentations (all designed in
OpenOffice - eat the dog food!) In the end, none of them really saw any
value in migrating.
Their points were:
1. Microsoft provided us the software through a grant, we didn't have to
pay anything so money isn't an issue.
I would say these are precisely the folks that we need to emphasis using
to - to be honest though I would de-emphasis working to try to change
these folks - meaning not all organizations get grants, if one does I
would say something like.
By all means use the software but consider switching to the supported an
open standard, ODF, so they can not only take advantage of Microsofts
generorsity but gurantee themselves easy access to move to other
platforms down the road, so that future budgetary concerns are freed
from counting on future actions of the donor.
If at that point all you did was get some new users of ODF it is still a
Then I would move on...
2. Document conversion isn't 100% accurate in many cases and we have
regulations we have to follow that require that they be accurate.
3. Retraining costs would be extremely high. Everyone knows MS Office,
nobody knows OpenOffice. We're a small government and can't afford
In this last ooocon there were two speakers, both from IT departments at
municipal govs. in Hungary - shops of a few 100 users each, IIRC - they
both put it quite plainly - We didn't pay to train anyone on MSO, why
would we do it for OO.o.
4. There will be massive pushback because the skills aren't transferable
and make people effectively useless in other jobs that use MS Office.
I think we should address a few of these points in whatever evangelism
we do towards local or national governments. Federal government in the
USA has historically been suspicious and wary of open source software.
That's dramatically changed over the last few years but, in some
agencies, it's still there to a degree.
Religious organizations are another are where costs and document
portability might not be a major concern because everyone is using the
same thing so there are no problems and, in many cases, Microsoft has
donated the software or provided it under a grant for no out of pocket
Yes, I have met many people from small congregations in the forums and
on the mailing lists, OO.o has a strong usage in this part of the
population in the US and Aus, NZ or at least so it seems from my
We're dealing with a very savvy competitior in Microsoft that is willing
to do whatever it takes to win. Whatever we come up with is going to
have to be just as savvy and beat them at their own game.
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