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On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Andy Brown <>wrote:

On Sat Oct 16 2010 09:53:55 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2010-10-16 01.33:

 As an outsider looking in at these proceedings, it is quite clear that
the TDF people who are still at Ooo are on borrowed time. I read through
the minutes and I guess that you are being told to either leave or you
will be asked to leave. But you must have expected this anyway.

indeed, it's a pity what is being said at the moment. As written today, we
have many "forks" - Oracle OO, OOo4Kids and some others. Nobody ever was
forced to lay down the role because of conflict of interest, and honestly, I
haven't anyone outside one specific group asking for that. However, that
specific group is TM owner, so...

 Thank you for your courage and I (and am sure many of us) are behind you
and giving you our full support. I'm sure it was a big decision to leave
and to move your work to a new organisation. But it was worth it!

Thank you for creating the TDF and LibreOffice.

Thank you very much, Marc! It's feedback like yours that keeps us going ;)

It is a total shame that they are doing this.  What next are they going to
request all that are connected to the LibreOffice community that to stop
being part of the OOo community?  Those that are working on the
Documentation project can not be connected to the LibO documentation
project?  What about the Distribution Project members?  Can't offer both?
 What about the user support from the community members, not be allowed on
mailing list for both projects.

To a degree I think is the wrong issue, the who cares who lead what. The big
issue is if the community is breaking apart. Are there people willing to go
to TDF, and is there people that will remain in OOo no matter what. That is
the big concern in my opinion. It seems more than title fighting, we should
be more concern of what will be the bottom line.

Is TDF wish to leave OOo behind? Seems so, after all, the community made OOo
big (staroffice disappeared from many people's mind). However as for much of
the TDF community now growing, we have been very slow developing the
infrastructure to receive all of the rest of the projects. So for example,
where will the documentation project go, or the distribution project go?
Still uncertain about those issues, I guess they will go with time. Then is
3.3 on OOo which some people will remain until the launch of that version.


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