Hi everyone,
thank you all for putting so much consideration into this discussion.
I am quite happy to independently create tutorial videos for
LibreOffice if it turns out that this is the best route for the
project as a whole. I was originally going to do that, but decided it
would be good to get in touch in case you needed specific kinds of
tutorials. So whatever happens, my plan is to make LibreOffice
tutorials for the foreseeable future.
My current workflow means that I create transcripts(technically
scripts) of my videos, which may be helpful to you as no one will have
to go back and create them if they are needed.
Regards,
Robert
On 10 December 2015 at 00:46, Robinson Tryon
<bishop.robinson@gmail.com <mailto:bishop.robinson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sophie wrote:
>> What we do not want in localised version is content in en_US
language.
>> Even if the sound is translated, UI still will be in English
and it's
>> very difficult to focus on what you learn when all what you see
is in
>> a foreign language.
In terms of the content that we provide on a per-language basis, I
agree that it's important to be able to provide consistency to those
users who desire it. For those who wish to see only content in
language XYZ, then we should strive to show them only content in XYZ.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Joel Madero <jmadero.dev@gmail.com
<mailto:jmadero.dev@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Just for full transparency here. Sophie and I had an extended
talk on
> chat and I'm of the belief that to prevent this from getting
into help
> files because other locales aren't doing the same is not the
smartest
> way to move forward. I instead would prefer including it and then
> supporting locales to do the same - in the respective languages,
with
> the right GUI, etc....These then would be linked in the locales help
> files and it would empower the community, expand on the product, and
> give visibility to a great tool (videos that literally show
exactly how
> to use features).
For those who are multilingual or just adventurous, I can see the
potential benefit if users could choose on a program-wide level to
toggle on extra non-localized content (let's call it "Extended
Documentation") for each page of the Help. If we were to have rather
stringent rules about what content (format, length, structure,
license, etc..) could be included in this fashion, then we'd have a
decent roadmap on what content we'd like to see localized next.
If we're clever about how we include Extended Documentation, we could
even recruit for translation/localization by adding a small message to
any non-localized content such as "Want to see this content in
$CURRENT_LOCALE? Click here to help out!"
> I'd prefer discussing a better solution, one where we can agree
that the
> tool is awesome for users, that the more visibility the better,
and one
> that empowers contributors to follow Robert's lead and developer
> tutorial videos in their respective languages.
I'd suggest that any video content included or linked from the
Documentation be provided in a similar fashion to our existing text
content. Off the top of my head, this would include:
- Licensing under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA 3+
- Use of free/open file formats
- "Source" video archived safely somewhere in TDF infra
- Inclusion of extra source materials (e.g. talking points used to
make the video, example docs displayed or demonstrated during the
video, etc..) with the archived source video to help others who may
wish to edit or reshoot the content
- Ability to Download or view video using only Free Software
(Archive.org?)
- Strong encouragement for any cross-platform content to be
demonstrated using the Doc Team's preferred Free Software GUI shell
[1]
It would be great to have subtitles provided for each source video
from the get-go, however that's definitely a task that can be handled
independently, freeing up video creators to create more videos...
Cheers,
--R
[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Production#Sample_screenshots
Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Software_screenshots
--
Robinson Tryon
QA Engineer - The Document Foundation
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