Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] Mac builds / lang-packs ...

Hi Christian,

2011.02.09 00:44, Christian Lohmaier rašė:
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Rimas Kudelis<rq@akl.lt>  wrote:
> > 2011.02.08 22:32, Christian Lohmaier rašė:
> > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Rimas Kudelis<rq@akl.lt>    wrote:
> > > > 2011.02.08 18:18, Christian Lohmaier rašė:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rimas Kudelis<rq@akl.lt>      wrote:
> > > > > > 2011.02.08 17:46, Christian Lohmaier rašė:
> > > > > > > * You cannot install as regular user (you always have to identify as
> > > > > > > administrator)
> > > > > > > (authentication is done before being able to select a
> > > > > > > target-directory)
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > I did, believe me.
> > > > What about the second drop-down here:
> > > > http://s.sudre.free.fr/Stuff/PM102_4.jpg ?
> > > Look at it for a few seconds, and think about it yourself for a while.
> > > There is *no* choice "ask for permissions when necessary".
> > The thing is – I don't see the other options in the drop-down.
> http://developer.apple.com/tools/installerpolicy.html

Thanks.

As I understand it, the admin users would not be getting the password 
prompt if this option is set to Admin Authorization. Others would be 
getting it. IMO, that's a fair enough trade considering that the 
installer would only allow to choose the installation disk, and not 
directory (which means that /Applications/ in the main disk is the most 
likely location, and it would need authorization anyway).

IMO, it's not such a big problem indeed.

> > But I
> > remember reading yesterday (or maybe the day before it) that that checkbox
> > is there to enable/disable the password prompt.
> Yes, but then you don't get any, even when it would require a
> password/administrator privileges, and then the installation will
> fail.

Which is why Admin authorization is probably the best option.

> copying an app from dmg is completely different from the installer
> package we're discussing here.
> And yes, it *does* ask for administrator privileges, when a non-admin
> user tries to copy files into /Applications folder.
> If you only got one user account, you probably don't notice, since
> that user is administrator by default.

Yep, that's obviously my case. :)

> The permissions /are/ necessary, but you don't have to deal with them
> when creating the bundle (the drag'n'drop "installer"), since it's
> regular copy operation and Mac OS X takes care of it and asks for
> privileges when necessary.
>
> Such a thing is not possible with the "package installer", there the
> one who builds the installer has to decide *beforehand* what
> privileges the installer will ask for.
> If you want the user to be able to install to /Applications, you have
> to require administrator privileges. But then a user who is not
> administrator, and doesn't have access to an administrator account to
> fulfill that requirement cannot install at all, even if the installer
> would offer a target-folder selection, since the user doesn't even get
> past the authorization.

How often is that the case?

> So when you want to test yourself, create a non-administrator user first.

Not necessary. The installer asked me for my password even though I am 
an admin. It also asked me to provide my password even when I chose to 
install the package into my home directory, how lame is that!

Well, it seems like my expectations for it were a bit higher. Basically, 
it looks like an incomplete product. Perhaps we could write our own 
installer plugin which would check itself whether elevation is needed or 
not, and then expect those who install using commandline to just use 
sudo, but that's probably not really worth the trouble...

Rimas


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