Re: [libreoffice-l10n] libreoffice-3-3-0 branch - new deadline for translations

2011/1/13 Martin Srebotnjak <miles@filmsi.net>:
> Andras,
>
> 2011/1/13 Andras Timar <timar74@gmail.com>
>
> > I understand. I don't know how LibreOffice install was supposed to
> > work. One possibility is that it checks for OS language. The other is
> > to check for regional settings. You run your English Windows with
> > Slovenian regional settings, do you? (I can't test all cases, because
> > I have only Hungarian Windows XP.)
>
> Yes, I run Slovenian regional settings, of course. In that case it should
> also work but it did not. But - are regional settings the right way to go? A
> Frenchwoman living in Moscow will have Russian regional settings (because
> she lives there and it is more practical for her that way), but she wants
> French LO installed...

It's a rare corner case – of course ideally we should cover it.

> > Having a language selection window that you suggest is a good idea
> > IMHO (not for 3.3 though). I think you should file a bug and give the
> > specification there.
>
> Well, here we disagree. The l10n teams (more or less knowing the
> habits/culture and representing non-English users) were wondering about the
> changed concept of online help on Windows and this multi-culti installer.
> This was a too big change to introduce with LO33, as I already wrote, it was
> not communicated with L10N teams etc. But my skepticism did not stop it. So
> it happened, but I (and probably other L10N-ers) expected that it will be
> done properly - so that builds can still be fully localized. Now we are
> stuck in the middle and we hear: there is no time to fix this for 3.3. Well,
> there was no time to introduce/design/implement/test this huge change for
> 3.3 in the first place. You can't rush a production of a car and say, we
> cannot fix this new security belt, hey, its not a biggie, don't panic...
>
> There are two possibilities:
> - the changes for Windows for online help are rolled back and there will be
> an English build with international langpacks (or international full
> builds);
> - the implementation goes forward until it is bug-free: installer allows UI
> language selection *and* online help from a localized LO UI is localized,
> i.e. Hungarian LO UI with F1 opens Hungarian contextual help in the LO
> help-wiki (I cannot test this with my install, RC2 with Slovenian helppack
> was reinstalled with RC3, which still uses the RC2 help, although I did not
> install localized help for RC3 - how do you uninstall help? This might be a
> bug as well - many things are not polished with these helppacks);

I can remove help packs with Add/Remove Programs applet in Control
Center. IMHO releasing LibreOffice with known bugs is better than
postpone the release to eternity. It will never be bug-free. After 3.3
3.3.1 will come, with the opportunity to fix more bugs. At first sight
I also did not like multi language installer and help packs. Now I
feel relaxed about them. :) Let's see how the users will welcome
LibreOffice.

Andras

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