Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010/12/6 Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@novell.com>:
>        Well - we are looking again at how best to re-package it. The 'obvious'
> solutions are not very pleasant ones though. So - with only ten
> languages (all of my Catalan, Hungarian, .... friends start screaming) -
> we can cover some huge proportion of our users, and then it is only the
> minority languages that have either a huge download, or separate / split
> language-packs.
>
>        On the other hand - now is not a wonderful time to be discovering
> this :-) The outline of what was suggested wrt. multi-language installs
> has been on the table for several months, and was there in Beta3; RC1 is
> not an ideal time to notice these issues.

Your release notes pointed to this as a known issue, not an
architectural "advance" as you are trying to sell it to the
multu-culti community now. If you said at Beta1 that there will be no
localized or English help included with LO - almost none of the
original langteam members would jump on the LO-wagon. You might not
understand this but the localization teams lost their souls localizing
the help of OOo and that help is probably the only help available for
the package in those languages (no manuals published, no companies
offering telephone support in these languages). So give us our
translated help back, please. Or do you think governments deciding for
open-source will vote for solutions that need installing help on every
single computer, or no help available at all? What a poor decision!

>        You appear to suggest that we delight in adding bloat for its own sake.
> While that most certainly may -seem- to be the case based on the result,
> it is somewhat offensive to suggest it :-)
>
>        One of the benefits of the combined installer is that we do not require
> many gigabytes of duplicated pointlessness on -every- mirror site: as we
> duplicate all of the code again and again and again for windows, 90%+ of
> which is identical, but each time with ~10Mb of translation / help :-)
> That is a nightare to build, copy, sign, up-load and manage.
>
>        Of course, we want to reduce the ultimate download size; and I'm
> working on analysing where the extra space came from in the latest
> build: we should be sub 300Mb. And yes, there are a -load- of dumb
> design decisions (eg. the template translation[1]) that makes us far too
> large, but working on the underlying causes to shrink this seems a far
> more worthy goal than hacking around it.

If LO is all about Mb, then it is not ripe enough to be localized and
offered in localized flavours. If that is so, please state it now, so
we can go on with our business elsewhere.

Thanks,
m.

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