Re: Contributing a hyphen dictionary for Bahasa Melayu/Malay

Update.

File: clean pattern file:
http://pastebin.com/4qF2dh6s


File: working file with notes:
http://pastebin.com/9v8L9WQj


Akhiran -i dan apitan meN-i
-i suffixes and meN-i circumfix
all possible particles and possessive pronoun combination

What these do:
remove certain hyphens on words that ended with the letter i and those that takes the suffix -i and 
circumfix meN-i
example: 
   1) me-ra-wat-i-nya > me-ra-wati-nya
2) be-ra-ni-nya > be-rani-nya
This should not affect words that end with the letter i that takes the suffix -kan and circumfix 
meN-kan
example
   1) be-ra-ni-kan > be-ra-ni-kan.

This is not the ideal solution, that requires a word list of all words that would take the -i and 
meN-i affixes and/or a word list of words that ended with the letter i. But it should work. 
(Theoretically. Need testing).



On Monday, December 9, 2013 11:32 AM, Bashirah Mazuki <sheera_azm@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
File: clean pattern file:
http://pastebin.com/DGZLDK5F


File: working file with notes: 
http://pastebin.com/x0P0X2e2

(please be kind when you find the inane comments that I missed. some of them are really old)




On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:39 AM, Bashirah Mazuki <bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Hi Sharuzzaman,

No, I'm not in KL, and not expecting to be there anytime soon. I'll leave the packaging details to 
you then? On recollection, I did use the files from  l10n-ms to get started the first time round, 
but they no longer work with current versions.

- b -



On Sunday, December 8, 2013 11:13 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <sharuzzaman@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Hi Bashirah,

OK, let's do this together. I'll try to find out how to properly package a dictionary and let's 
built a beta version to be tested by Malaysian.


You may contact me off this mailing list if you want to.


By the way, are you somewhere around KL? If you are, maybe we can have a face-to-face meeting with 
the open source people who might be interested to join.


Thanks.






On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Bashirah Mazuki <bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi, Sharuzzaman,
> Clarification: All the way back when it was version 1 or thereabout of Open Office I started 
> working on the hyphen dictionary - by the time I stopped about a year later I've already have 
> outlined all the work needed, so when I looked again at it mid this year I can and have followed 
> my notes to finish it. It's finished, or at least theoretically usable. 
>
>
> What I need is technical help - right now its a plain text file since have no idea how to 
> integrate it to Libre Office or even where to upload it. (Do I just attach it to the mailing 
> list?). Furthermore, and this is something I've been wondering about, it will need to be tested 
> against a lot of texts to make sure it's actually usable, and that is not something I have. Is it 
> better to have a small pool of testers (your team, if they are available) first or do we just put 
> it out and fix it along? 
>
>
> A major issue is the fact that I've completely ignored proper nouns by design. Adding them would 
> be fairly easy, if tedious, but a list of common proper nouns would be necessary if you have it.
>
>
> -b-
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:27 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <sharuzzaman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Bashirah,
>
> I'm from Malaysia, and a member of Malaysian Open Source community.
Long time ago, we already embarked on the project to provide native Malay translation of the menu, 
and also dictionary for OpenOffice, but it was never completed. The project is l10n-ms in 
sourceforge.
> If you need any help, do let me know. I will gather back the team, and hopefully we can complete 
> this.
>
> I'm also not familiar with the technical setup. I'm sure someone in this list would be able to 
> help.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bashirah Mazuki <bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, a few months ago I picked up a really old project of mine. My notes were enough to complete 
> it, but now it needs testing and I'm at loss as to how proceed. Please assume a very rusty 
> skillset.
> > Furthermore, if it's of interest, it is tailored to the Malaysian Melayu Baku ideal, so this it 
> > might not be useful much for Indonesian, at least without much modifications.
> >
> >
> > -b-
> > _______________________________________________
> > LibreOffice mailing list
> > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
>
>
> -- 
> Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan 


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Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan