Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] Start Impress without the wizard by default

Hi Michael, Tim, all!

@ Michael: As always, thanks for forwarding.
@ Tim: Thanks for the patch! :-)

Am Freitag, den 18.11.2011, 15:54 +0000 schrieb Michael Meeks:
> On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 16:37 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > We do have " Tools > Options > Impress > General ... > New document .. 
> > start with Wizard " to turn of the wizard all together.
> > That should do it ..?
>
>       Right, just changing that default would be easier. Tim - the best way
> (or at least what I'd do) to find that is to cp -a your
> ~/.config/libreoffice to somewhere else; change the setting, exit, then
> diff -ur on the files, perhaps xmlint --format them, and diff -u again -
> then hack the default setting in officecfg.
>
>       Any chance you can tweak your patch to that ?

If one wants to go a bit further, I'd suggest to (if possible) move the
wizard to the "Templates and Documents" handling. Basically, the core of
the wizard seems to be to select proper master pages and to generate a
basic structure.

That would mean:

      * Application Menu "File -- Wizard": Remove the entry
        "Presentation..." -> Rationale: It is a mixture of different
        kinds of wizards. And, only few people seem to use them (from my
        experience on former user lists).

      * Dialog "Templates and Documents" --> Rationale: As said, it lets
        the user select master pages and structure. At the moment, its
        unclear to me how this dialog works and whether the presentation
        dialog can easily be added.

      * Presentation Wizard: Remove page 1 (so skip the blank
        presentation, the open presentation thing) --> Rationale: Remove
        clutter, especially since most of the stuff is already done by
        the Start Center / other menus.

      * Option: Maybe, remove the option Cor mentioned. But maybe wait
        one release to wait for some "enlightening" feedback by our
        users ;-)))

From my point of view, it could help to reduce the clutter.

>       Cor - you didn't tell us if you thought this was a good default; so far
> Astron agrees, and Tim of course ;-)

+1 ... good thing :-)

Cheers,
Christoph