[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-25

Present: Sahil, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Mike, Ady, Rafael

Tickets/Topics

 * Remove status bar 'document modified' indicator
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159073
   + status not shown in title for new documents (Eyal)
     + title does not show the status (anymore?) but the save icon
   + redundant information is not bad per se, the toolbar button is
     primarily meant to run an action but not to give feedback (users
     may not expect it there)
   + with the Notebookbar UI it's not guaranteed to see the toolbar info
   + and the statusbar icon looks pretty nice
   => WF

 * Comment indicator in Calc should be red, not magenta
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159096
   + border uses now the grid line color (Heiko)
   + red would be a bad choice as it typically indicates errors (Mike)
   + yellow and red might be used for cell background (Ady)
   + orange (Rafael)
   + invert the cell background color (Ryal)
     + looses the customizability and becomes difficult on mid-bright colors
   + do it just when the picked color is close to the cell background
     + algorithm is tricky, and variable colors make the display busy
   + Magenta (a bit less glossy) is used on Excel
   + Light Magenta 3 is a bit too close with "Bad" cell style,
     Light Magenta 2 is fine (Eyal, Sahil)
     + works also well in dark mode
   => change the color

 * Double click on a comment in Navigator should open the cell for editing
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158707
   + in 7.4 double click goes to cell
   + in 7.6 single click selects, double executes the default action-
     in this case go-to plus editing the comment
   + a) edit comment, cursor at the end?, b) edit cell, cursor at the end?,
     c) just go-to and toggle the comment visibility, d) just go-to cell
   + in most cases the comment text should be readable in the Navigator and
     double-click is likely intended to edit the comment (all)
   + expect double-click to toggle show/hide; directly going into edit mode
     feels dangerous but just showing makes editing difficult (ctrl+alt+c)
     and my muscle memory is F2 to edit; so ideally we select the comment
     frame in order to use F2 (all)
   + single click does not change the view but shows this comment temporarily
     (until clicking somewhere else), double-click navigates to the cell, make
     the comment permanently visible, and double-click again hides it; when
     showing the comment per double-click also selects the comment for easy
     accessed to edit (Eyal)
   + double-click surely should not edit the cell content (Eyal)
   + comments disappear unreliably (Sahil)
   + having comments in a dedicated sidebar allows more flexible
     solutions (Sahil)
   => comment in ticket

 * When search key is not found, search text seems to be selected but is not
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158742
   + behavior has changed but still no selection is being made
   + changing the search term partially is more likely, ie. selection in order
     to overwrite completely is not intended (Heiko)
   + ctrl+f selects the search text in any case (Heiko)
   + clearly NAB/WF (Eyal)
   => resolve ticket

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