[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Jul-13

Present: Bjoern, Thorsten, John, Cor, Eyal, Heiko

Topic: Polypoly

 * Introduction
   + https://polypoly.org/en-gb/
   + founded May/4th 2019 with the purpose to empower end users to reclaim
     their data.
   + main problem with data is that we send data to 3rd party companies and
     we have no rights on it
   + goal is to store data locally (on the edge) and let algorithms evaluate
     those data and share only the results
   + European cooperative "COOP" https://polypoly.coop/en-de/
   + first release available for Android/iOS is able to bring the data of
     Facebook and google back to the user (as copy in the moment). The data
     will be explained to the end user in a way that also non tech people
     are able to understand what the net knows about them.
   + next step is to integrate open source projects

 * Scenarios
   + surveys such as 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2021/10/18/results-from-the-survey-about-libreoffice-calc/ 
are completed by
     tech-affine people with some expertise "...mid-age (65% between
     33 and 65 years old), technology-affine (60% use Linux as operating
     system), and power users (45% run the application every day)"
   + anecdotal reports to judge on enhancement requests such as 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501
     (Change the default UI)
   + missing knowledge, eg. how many individuals run LOOL/COOL, meaning have
     configured the environment first
   + answers to questions like "what action comes most often before undo" has
     huge potential for improvement
   + personas should be based on facts (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org
     /Design/Guidelines/HIG_foundations#Persona)

 * Existing code
   + initial steps have been done 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/OpenOffice.org_User_Feedback_Extension
   + UI setting removed with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/119166
     for bug 140107 but code still at sfx2/source/control/unoctitm.cxx
     collectUIInformation(), see also bug 96434

 * Questions
   + wouldn't it be better to not collect data at all (rather than doing
     the PP approach)
     + open source community tried with Discourse, for example, but better
       we reclaim data; data is key for many questions; PP is neutral and
       transparent
     + PP does not own the data; PP is a cooperative, all income will be shared
   + is PP open source / what license
     + yes, dual-licensing
   + what would be the scenario when PP becomes included
     + probably a question "Do you want to share data..." as opt-in
   + amount of data is frightening
     + 10 years of extensive Google usage is about 100MB
     + an option might be to keep raw data for only a short period and
       condense then
   + feedback channel, something that allows the individual to compare with
     the average
     + could be something for the future
   + include questionnaires for example to split user types
     + demographics are included already
     + identification with brands is built-in
   + any legal constraints
     + LibreOffice sends crash reports to TDF
   + who is doing the coding effort
     + research and testing needed to improve the PP AI
     + integration needs to be done together afterwards/in parallel
   + what are the next steps
     + involve the ESC
     + write a blog post and involve the community

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