Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2019-Feb-06 (Wed)

On February 11, 2019 2:08:58 AM GMT+08:00, Italo Vignoli <italo@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> I cannot disagree more. In Italy, most enterprises and every public
> administration are using Microsoft Access, and this represents a
> problem
> when they have to migrate to LibreOffice (as Base is not seen as a good
> replacement for Microsoft Access, because is missing the scripting
> feature).
>
> On 10/02/2019 10:56, Pedro Rosmaninho wrote:
> > Just to mention that Microsoft Access (the equivalent to Base) is
> barely
> > used in the professional world.
> > Usually companies use Excel and connect it to MySQL or apps like
> PowerBI
> > depending on the purpose.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 9:40 AM Heiko Tietze <tietze.heiko@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > While the idea of the Notebookbar is exactly this, to provide
> completely
> > > different UIs, I doubt we can make Base "a variant of Calc“. But you
> are
> > > very welcome to draft the idea or implement yourself (should be
> possible
> > > for everyone who uses mailing lists).
> > >
> > > > Am 07.02.2019 um 21:26 schrieb Miguel Mayol <mitcoes@gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > I had today a idea i think is a very good one:
> > > >
> > > > One interface option - better if it is the default one - in LO BASE
> > > equal to the CALC one
> > > > The reason is that people are using EXCEL for databases
> > > > because they do not know
> > > > because they have the cheaper version of MSO without Access
> > > > and because they think it is "easier"
> > > >
> > > > Doing this and a promo viral video that shows that it is
> > > > - as easy as a spreadsheet to insert  and show data
> > > > - and as powerful as a database to deal with it,
> > > > especially addressed to university professors and PhD students,
> probably
> > > would increase a lot the use of BASE in substitution of MS Excel for
> > > managing databases, and the use of other components of LibreOffice.
> > > > I went to bugzilla, but I was not able to log in, so sorry, but as
> I
> > > only collaborate with suggestions, I did not want this one that I
> think is
> > > great, and probably very easy to implement, to pass by.
> > > > I remembered an old database named FileMaker that  was very easy to
> use
> > > because it had a interface near to what a spreadsheet is.
> > >
> > >
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Currently in enterprise migration there are still two big gaps : Macros and Databases.  IIRC a few 
years before when we talked about this, the solutions were that we'd help the customers to use 
*real* rational databases like MySQL/Mariadb, …etc., with some simple web interfaces (MySQL admin?) 
to replace Access.  After all, Access or Base is just(?) front-end agents of these real databases.

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