Re: [libreoffice-design] Topic for design team to investigate: Content hosting consolidation on ask.libreoffice.org

Can we really think about using Ask for that?

My impression is that it is not even very well accepted as a forum. Not 
an example of success.

For me the current web of extensions looks and works well enough.

And on the other hand we could be more thankful with the volunteer work 
of the people in the project, whether we like it or not.

Miguel Ángel.

El 11/10/18 a las 14:58, Bjoern Michaelsen escribió:
> Hello Design Team,
>
> as you might be aware, the user experience of our extension and template
> website causes users a lot of concern[1]. This is despite volunteer efforts
> trying to move this forward, but stalling due to limited resources, which led
> to TDF even attempting to get commercial support for Plone[2] to augment the
> the limited volunteer ressources available. The latter did not help to
> meaningfully improve the situation either.
>
> So as all current efforts there are stalled, I looked around for alternative
> solutions to our usecase -- which is hosting auxiliary content for LibreOffice
> consumers. We already have a platform that does that, which is ask.libreoffice.org.
>
> ask.libreoffice.org already allows uploading of templates as attachments to
> questions, so it can already be used for templates. Doing so (e.g. by posting a
> self-answered question) is possible, but not exactly intuitive. However, askbot
> also provides:
>
> - various logins including OAuth etc. (which currently is a hassle on Plone)
> - distributed moderation and gamification (which currently is a bottleneck on Plone)
> - better discoveribility, tagging and social media integration
> - markdown, mini-wiki and discussion of content
> - multi-language support
>
> That is, the experience for template creators and consumers is already much better
> on askbot than it is on the current extension and templates website, which is
> stalled and currently has no clear path to even get to a experience comparable
> with askbot -- let alone beyond.
>
> As such, I would like to suggest the design team to investigate, if it is feasable:
>
> - to extend askbots existing UI to offer uploading of templates
>    (well, technically that is already possible: This is just about making the
>    usecase more obvious to users, e.g. with a guided "templates upload wizard")
> - to extend askbots configuration to also allow .oxt files as uploads and offer
>    the same for extensions
> - finally, use e.g. tags to provide a "template" or "extension" view of
>    ask.libreoffice.org
>
> Unlike the rather limited successes we had with Plone, TDF sucessfully triggered
> improvements of askbot in the past[3], so given some well-scoped choices and
> selections made by the design team wrt askbot could help guide the same in the
> future.
>
> Best,
>
> Bjoern
>
>
> [1] Seen e.g. by:
>      a/ repeated cries for help on twitter, some examples:
>         https://twitter.com/nimbleslides/status/1020899933161848832
>         https://twitter.com/FloraCanou/status/1020517686453735424
>      b/ currently no presentation templates being offered there, despite this
>         being the most common use case:
>         https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates?getCategories=Presentation&getCompatibility=any
>         and massive template collections actually being hosted elsewhere e.g.:
>         https://github.com/dohliam/libreoffice-impress-templates
> [2] see entry for 2016-02-18 on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askbot

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