Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2018/Sep/19

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Subject:        Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2018/Sep/19
Date:   Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:27:01 +0200
From:   Miguel Mayol <mitcoes@gmail.com>
To:     Heiko Tietze <tietze.heiko@gmail.com>



Thanks, I tried to customize, BUT  I cannot do NESTED icons.

If you add this feature, where any user can setup a vertical - or horizontal - dock with 3x3 menu 
matrix that would appear after pressing - clicking the main menu icon - imagine that you only copy 
peast the actual menu to this format... 

You press help icon in the vertical dock and then a floating 3x3 matrix icon - or a floating dock 
appears and you can press LO help // What is this? // ... // About LO and back

So as the FILE menu has 24 options plus up to 12 nested options make the FILE ICON with up to 8 
main options ICONS with 4 each one, and 2 with 6, or even

Why 3x3 matrix icons 8 menu items plus back? because yo look at all in one sight, and not in 4x4 or 
bigger.

It is not a special use need, it is a suggestion for a finger friendly menu, even more than 
material design that still uses text menus and not icons - ideograms - that would be very useful in 
tablets or phones where you can dictate to write, or hand write "to OCR", 

And in computer i use a 28" 16:9 screen, and to read 2 A4 pages together well I must select full 
screen mode thing I cannot do when I compare versions or want to copy paste paragraphs.

Use that a auto hide menu, and better if it is vertical would help a lot to be more productive, but 
also would give the lignux distributions freedom to setup menus and it would be a easier to use 
alternative to the MS ribbon menu, that is not "finger friendly".

Last but not least, announcing the mere OPTION to be able to configure this kind of SMART HIDE and  
FINGER FRIENDLY menu with a basic port of the actual menu as described before or even better, even 
it were in alpha stage for years would probably give your next LO design summit good things to talk 
about to the press, and with that a great free promotion.

Thanks again for your work, and if I was not able to make you understand my point - [- as user 
since the Star office times  - with productivity studies - economist - and novelist - I had to wait 
to the LO 6 version to be able to share my novel in epub as it is a conversation in colors and no 
prior software converted it -. I wrote that in palm PIM times thinking in future smartphones before 
the iphone. I actually write doctoral papers with LO and Gdocs] yes a rare very techy and 
futuristic guy from 1966 - I am sorry, but I do not how to explain myself better right now. 

El jue., 20 sept. 2018 a las 10:54, Heiko Tietze (<tietze.heiko@gmail.com 
<mailto:tietze.heiko@gmail.com>>) escribió:

    Hello Miguel,

    glad to see happy users. First, if you have enhancement ideas please file a ticket on Bugzilla 
[1]. That's needed for transparency and traceability.

    The suggestion itself sounds to cover a very special use case (that you haven't described), or 
maybe I don't understand it. You want to put all the commands from the classic menu into a single 
dock? You will end up in a very deep hierarchy when using all items! But anyway, you can try per 
Tools > Customize, and eventually it could be an interesting alternative for our Notebookbar 
concept.

    Thanks for your input,
    Heiko

    [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport

    On 9/18/18 3:59 PM, Miguel Mayol wrote:
    > Thanks all for your excellent work.
    >
    > I would love to be able to configure all the menus in a vertical (or configurable) nested 
dock with smart hide. Similar to material design
    > This way I would have more space to work my frequent used tools in the first box - icon - and 
all the others in the other boxes - icons, ideograms -
    > And if they can be configured to be big - big fingers friendly - it can be great even for use 
in the lignux phones and tablets that are going to come as the librem.
    >
    > I do not know if it is very hard to offer this freedom to configure menus options, but if it 
is not hard to do, please do, and not only to please what I think would improve my workflow, also 
to let lignus distributions to setup their defaults as they think is better or nicer, and be able 
to have different  profiles and or themes to test, switch or even use different ones depending on 
the task.
    >
    > Thanks again for your work, and in advance if you explore this path of vertical or 
configurable nested menus.



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