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What's the difference between toolbars, sidebar and notebookbars. They are
different from a dev point of view but from a user perspective they
shouldn't be separate.

So from my point of view no prefix

but as you ordinary don't want to switch the UI often (you have one
work-flow) I'm for a section in the configuration dialog where there is
also some explanation.

In addition the section is the menubar is needed (also for some notebookbar
implementation this drop down list was used).

Add the different layouts into the configuration dialog give also the
information what's a notebookbar and a standard toolbar (the icon size can
be different configured).


2018-03-25 21:02 GMT+02:00 Heiko Tietze <>:


in the patch Kshitij is working
on issue tdf#115131 (merging the two menu flavors). The patch works find
but we stumbled over the label question. Right now it looks like this

  - separator -
  Notebookbar > Contextual groups
  Notebookbar > Contextual single
  Notebookbar > Tabbed

My comment was to remove the prefix but Jay disagreed with the remark that
such a combined menu would better be called UI Layout. The change may look
like this

UI Layout
  - separator -
  Contextual groups
  Contextual single

Now I wonder how users may read "UI Layout > Single", for instance. And
calling it "Single Toolbar" is also not that nice thinking about "Standard"
or "Standard Toolbar" (and suffixes are similarly awkward as prefixes).

I still prefer this plain solution as any prefix is a clear indicator for
bad usability (meaning the items are actually meant for a submenu). Any


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