Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposal to improve layer handling and object selection

On Freitag, 8. Juli 2016 16:34:26 CEST Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> > Regina Henschel wrote:
> >  In ODF the z-order is _completely different_ from the layer.
>
> Right. So the feature is mainly useful for quickly showing and hiding
> subsets of the Drawing - and it's orthogonal to everything else,
> including z-order & navigation order.
>
> Compare it to grouping or tagging, but it's without the hard-link when
> e.g. moving grouped shapes around.
>
> As such it's helpful. And the before is no statement about the
> usefulness of layers in the meaning of Inkscape, Gimp or the like.

As Tomaz pointed out, "To be honest, for Draw having layers that don't behave as majority of 
vector/raster editing programs out there is not the way to make Draw more familiar and useful for 
users."

We have (meta) issues regarding layers, object selection, and a clean UI. The proposal is to have 
all document features in the navigator. And there could be either "restricted" access to layers in 
terms of attaching the z-order to layers, or we provide orthogonal view (e.g. per tabs) to layers, 
groups, and other aspects in the navigator.

> From the usability POV I see clear advantages for the first option. The idea to hide objects from 
> layer a and b but keep others makes not much sense. And a group over layer boundaries sounds also 
> like a nightmare when you open the drawing after some time.

Cheers, 
Heiko

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