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Hi :)
I agree that quite a few things could be made much easier for corporate users.

However, I'm a bit confused by the "No Stylist, no Navigator, missing
settings.".  Do you mean those things are not open by default?  They
seem to be there for me after doing an install but just not open and
ready to use.

I'm not sure if someone from documentation is also working on the
types of things you are writing.  Even if they are there is a good
chance they have stalled and might appreciate someone else taking over
what they have done so far and that might help give you some other
ideas or confirm some of the ones you had already.

Regards from
Tom :)

On 8 February 2014 14:30, Jean-Francois Nifenecker
<> wrote:

This has been posted as a contribution to another thread here. I feel
this is very important and should be discussed in a separate thread. So,
here we go.

*Who* is the LibreOffice installation target?

-- Business and Corporate users?

Why, then, is the tool un-finished when the installation is over? No
Stylist, no Navigator, missing settings. Worse, all these are hidden. If
no-one in the company IT dept knows how much efficiency can be pulled
from LibO, these gems stay hidden. This explains why thousands of users
are indeed struggling against the tool while LibO is designed to help them.
That's a real, real, shame. On a side note, this doesn't help getting
market shares from these targets. From some pov the current office
suites (unfortunately LibO is not alone), make me feel they are toys
until someone takes some time to configure them before handling them to
their in-house users. And I can tell you many IT depts won't ever change
one single bit after LibO has been installed: the user is left alone.

-- John Doe?

Ok, fine with me. But then, please, give the businesses and corporate
users a tool, a preset, something, anything to help them setting LibO to
reach the efficiency their users need everyday.

Currently the answer to the question is John Doe. Corporate users are
left in a no man's land where they have to deal with problems by
themselves with no help from any in-house dept. As a result, users just
struggle with the office software to have their documents done. The IT
dept generally have no clue to what's in a bird: they just install the
software. The bosses never mind: they take decisions but won't ever use
the tools. In the Office suite world, efficiency is just a motto.

Don't you think our suite of predilection is worth better in corporate
environments? Design and Marketing, any idea?

IMO, LibO could help in the following ways:
-- produce a document explaining what settings are better in a corporate
environment (I'm currently working on that);
-- having a document showing in details how to change the command-line
installation settings to fit corporate needs (this might already exist
but I failed to find it)
-- have a specific installation tool that would give a ready-for-use
suite right after intall.

all this is *very* important in order to LibreOffice to make its way in
businesses and corporate environments. Failing to do so is shooting
oneself in the foot.
Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

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