Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat Icons Wiki Page

On 03/05/2013 11:37 AM, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote:
> Le mar. 05 mars 2013 17:27:54 CET, Issa Alkurtass a écrit :
> > Hello Kévin, webmaster, Emir,
> >
> > Kévin PEIGNOT wrote on March 05, 2013 5:56 PM:
> > > Then, I'm not sure about the Tentative Design part : why snapshots, then latest snapshots ? I think 
> > > just the
> > > last snapshot, in context, is enough. The "duplicate" part don't seems me useful. Maybe just a 
> > > snapshot of
> > > all currents icons and one in context ?
> > They are like that. One is a sheet, which is how the current icons look. The other is a screenshot, 
> > which is how they would look in context/in the program.
> > I didn't really think about the captions/naming, perhaps you can change it to something more 
> > meaningful :)
> I will think, but with my bad english it could be even worst :D
> > > Other question, where did you find the Gnome Symbolic icons for your snapshots ?
> > All Gnome icons are available here https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-icon-theme/
> > While I'm trying to reuse everything I can, a lot of them had to be edited or even drawn from 
> > scratch.
> Not surprised with that, LibO has a huge number of icons, Gnome can't
> have one for each of us.
> > webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote on March 05, 2013 5:14 PM:
> > > Those icons need the white-ish background to show up
> > > instead of the "transparent looking" background.
> > >
> > > So, any new icon needs to have a non-transparent background.
> > I don't think that would be a good choice, if we do so the icons won't be platform independent nor 
> > theme independent.
> > Wouldn't two variants (dark and light) be a better solution to this problem?

Whatever would work to make the icons stand out with the Persona design 
issues.  Also, there needs to be an ability to use the Persona font 
color choice, for most of the good ones.

We need to have icons that work for as many "colors and shades colors" 
of this new theme option for the new 4.0.x line.  Once the "font color" 
issue has been taken care of, dark and light icon options might do the 
trick.  Dark for the lighter background and light for the darker ones.  
As long as the contrast of the icon is high enough between the icons and 
the background color[s], it should work fine.  Right now the contrast of 
the "grayed out" icons not allowing the icons to work on the backgrounds 
I use and some of the desktop "window" display/color options I have tried.

Right now, my system seems to want to default to this "range" of gray 
colors for the menu and "window" areas for LO and all of my installed 
packages.
#bebab3    #dad8d3     #dcdad5


> > Emir Yâsin SARI wrote on March 05, 2013 6:16 PM:
> > > I wonder, if the icons could be a little bit darker, at this state they are barely readable.
> > Good point, I forgot to bring it up.
> > We need to choose a color for the icons, I suggest choosing either Tango palette or LibreOffice 
> > [branding] palette:
> > Tango's dark grays: 2e3436, 555753.
> > LibO's dark grays: 666666, 333333.
> >
> > Please note that this decision would most likely affect future colored flat icons. On other hand 
> > the colors can be changed with one click at any time so we don't have to worry about it for now :)
> I'm really not sure of what I will say, but as SVG are XML files,
> couldn't the color be automaticaly changed by the theme / program ? It
> seems me it's the way Ubuntu do with its indicators (I repeat, I'm
> really not sure, more a question than anything else)
> > > Or they'll look already better when implemented? Or is it better to discuss this on the wiki?
> > You can see that for yourself in the wiki page.
> >
> > Kévin PEIGNOT wrote on March 05, 2013 6:39 PM:
> > > Do someone know if there is, somewhere, a list of all the icons we actually
> > > use ? This would help us know what we still have to do, and maybe make a
> > > wiki page with all icons and their current status (not started, started by,
> > > analysis, ready).
> > If you have the LibreOffice source code you can find all the icons in icon-themes. I am replacing 
> > them (on my machine) one by one to know what's done and what's not.
> > A wiki page like that would be a huge effort and it wouldn't be so efficient.
> > We are currently using SparkleShare (Dropbox-like software) and we're looking for a solution that 
> > would automatically fetch the icons for discussion. Check this meeting where we discussed the 
> > workflow https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings/2013-02-16
> Thank's a lot ! I definitively need to liberate my saturdays ... I will
> read this tonight.
> > _______________________
> > Regards,
> > Issa Alkurtass
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