[libreoffice-design] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Windows look

Hi Astron,

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Stefan Knorr
<heinzlesspam@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> hrm... this voting is quite clear: currently it is at 26:11:2
> (opaque:partly opaque:transparent).
> There are two factors that work against the transparency:
> * Mirek didn't pick the ideal screenshot to illustrate transparency (my
> view, feel free to disagree)


I just took Kendy's shot and made "File" and "Edit" more visible.
Feel free to make your own mockup (based on Kendy's shot) -- we can have
another poll comparing that to the winner of this poll.


> * Some people might just be very change-averse


Please don't use the label "change-averse" -- it's increasingly used to
justify bad design in spite of consumer backlash. The only time changes are
worth carrying out in spite of negative consumer response are when a) these
changes allow the software to evolve in the interest of better usability
(such as Ubuntu's, Gnome's, and Microsoft's changes to make their software
work well for touch devices), b) these changes make the software more
logical/consistent (such as Chrome putting tabs on top or Microsoft
ditching Aero for Metro on the desktop).

The proposed menubar change is neither of these -- it's purely a cosmetic
change, and therefore usability and consumer opinion count most. In terms
of usability, a white background behind the menu bar items would be best
(whether we go for a "tab" look or a "full bar" look).

> There are two factors of which I have no idea how they factor in:
> * The people on the G+ page are probably generally rather techy and
> design-interested, but it can't be said to be representative
> * It's just screenshots/mockups, nothin with which people can interact
>
> Still, I guess, the figures would not change too much even with all
> factors taken into account (IANAP*, though). How much we want to honour
> this voting, I don't know...
> At this point, would it be safer to go back to one of Mirek's earlier
> mock-ups (at least for 3.6), then?
>
> Astron.

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