Re: [libreoffice-design] Are you okay with those new default styles?

Hi all,

I see improvements and I see shortcomes. I'm no specialist, just want to point things that jump to 
my eye.
First, I agree with most of Niklas comments. I see some hidden changes we probably wouldn't want 
included: Calibri font in many styles, odd margins in default page, custom styles (shouldn't these 
be added to the default ones?). Not sure about the colors choice, but I guess it was a good choice 
to pick one instead of leaving everything black. I'm also still not sure about outline numbering in 
the headings. It could serve as advertising the tool, but maybe leave this to Headings 4 and ahead 
would be best. Headings 2 and 3 are too much used in contexts where we don't want numbering, like 
Niklas said. I also like the new default fonts.

Of less importance, I see that Heading 10 is linked with Heading, while Headings 1-9 are linked 
with Default, on the same hierarquical level as Heading. Plus, Default style has a 1,5 line spacing 
(which oddly doesn't show in the Organizer tab), plus a 0,35cm above and below the paragraph. These 
are just too much. I'd suggest picking only below paragraph.

On the other hand, and more importantly, Default style has First Line Indent as next paragraph. We should 
realize this is a major shift in the paragraph style use (unless I'm plainly mistaken). It would mean people 
wouldn't be using Default style after the first paragraph, but First Line Indent instead. I believe this is a 
good thing, as they would be more aware of using styles. First Line Indent is very descriptive so it would 
help understanding there is a whole plenty of choice of paragraphs (I'm thinking of really layman users, who 
wouldn't touch a setting that says "default"), and it's a good style for a text body, so they are 
not forced to change if they want to stick with direct formatting. I believe this change is a real step 
forward, and I would really like to see it applied.

Cheers to all./



Alexander Wilms skrev 2012-06-12 16:03:


> Hi everyone,
>
> would anyone object against Cedric including this as new default 
> (empty) template:
>
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Avantgarde.ott
>
>      Alex

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