Re: [libreoffice-design] This weeks meeting notes

Hi everyone,
As I haven't been able to attend most of the chat, I'll put my opinion of
certain ideas that were tossed around here:
"[13:08] <alexanderW> Should that popover only be used for colors or also
pictures and patterns?"
The scope asks for gradients and patterns.
I understood it as "shape fill", in which case image fill is also relevant.

"[13:15] <Android272> with the gradients, they would be horrible with small
text."
Gradient fill, pattern fill, and image fill should only show up for certain
objects. Not text.

"[13:26] <alexanderW> - recent and document colors are shown below the
selected palette"
I disagree with showing document colors below the palette. A Draw drawing
is likely to use a multitude of colors, and it would be painful for the
user if he had to look through the document colors using left and right
arrows within a small section below the palette.

I would prefer to keep document colors as a section within the dropdown.

"[13:26] <alexanderW> - custom colors would either be shown like recent and
document colors or as a seperate palette"
What do you mean by custom colors?
Do you mean user-defined colors that apply only to the document? If that's
the case, then there's no need to have a separate section for these -- all
of them should be covered by the "Document colors" section.

Or do you mean user-defined colors that are meant to be preserved within
LibreOffice? In that case, the user should create their own palette instead
and add their own colors. Or they could modify a current palette.

"[13:29] <astron5> one of the things that i think i as a user would be
uncomfortable with is that everything is in a hover window though..."
I understand. The idea was that the pop-over would resume state when
reopened.
If you think it will be an issue, though, the dropdown menu could house a
"Manage palettes..." item that would launch a dialog. This should be a
modal dialog -- managing palettes is a workflow separate from working on
the document.

"[13:41] <astron5> however, defining a colour is more involving in and of
itself and you dont want to lose that "work" just because you clicked
somewhere else."
Defining a color for one-time use (through the "custom color" section of
the pop-over) would apply changes in real time, so no work would be lost by
clicking elsewhere.

"[13:37] <Android272> well I think that mite be what the x in the corner
may be fore. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:C-libre.png";
The "X" represents no color. "Automatic" is the label that goes with the
icon.

"[14:02] <@Maggie> I'm thinking of a proposal for a minimal window mode."
Sounds good. Do keep it on your user page, though, until we wade through
all the current whiteboards. Unless an interested developer comes along, of
course. :)

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