Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Design team IRC chat

Hi all!

Cool idea to organize that IRC meeting ... but first, here are some
other thoughts I've had when reading your mail.


Am Montag, den 19.03.2012, 20:46 +0100 schrieb Mirek M.:
> 2012/3/19 Stefan Knorr (Astron) <heinzlesspam@googlemail.com>
>
> > Hi Mirek,
> >
> > > I've had a conversation with Alexander Wilms on IRC today and we've
> > decided
> > > that it would be productive if the whole Design team could meet on the
> > IRC
> > > to discuss relevant LibreOffice UI/design topics. We could start with the
> >
> > Actually, it would be a great idea if we could meet on IRC on a
> > weekly/bi-weekly basis. Maybe name it something like "Let's talk
> > design." (which conveniently abbreviates to "Ltd.") and set (a)
> > topic(s) before we meet. How do you feel about that?

Looking back, the OOo IRC meetings have been quite nice ... although
usually only few people joined. Here is some stuff to get an idea what
worked well:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Status_Meetings

[...]
> > Secondly, there already is a Whiteboard on the topic that Christoph
> > started some time ago with many pointers to bugs etc – see [1]. I
> > guess we should use that.
>
> OK.
> The page looks like it needs a bit of clean-up, though -- for example, why
> are suggestions listed under "Current state", and what is the point of
> "Further information"?

Oh, thanks for referring to this Whiteboard - it really needs some
cleanup, since some people already started to work on some issues (maybe
causing other issues *g*) - that's documented in Bugzilla.

Concerning suggestions under "Current state" - I seem to miss them.
Maybe you're referring to the "evaluation" of the today's behavior.
Proposals and such stuff is handled in the "Draft Area".

The point of "Further information" was to have a section to add stuff
that fits nowhere else - but I never had such info, so it can go. 

> > Thirdly, often times we miss the basis for what we do here. With
> > everyone going into the direction of touch-friendliness here, it's
> > easy to steer LibreOffice into even larger inconsistency. What we
> > need, clearly is some sort of HIG, else we might actually make
> > LibreOffice worse. This is not to say that we need a completely new HIG,
> > but we need to
> > either copy/paste the pieces we like from others (it still need s to
> > be conherent) or need to adapt a pre-existing one that covers what we
> > need.
>
> OK. I started a wiki page for it [1]. It's a good topic for our upcoming
> IRC chat -- we'll put items in the "Tentative design" section only after
> we've discussed them.
[...]

> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Human_Interface_Guidelines

Some time ago, I made such a list on my personal page - would it be
helpful to move the table there?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/Temporary_Work_Space

Cheers,
Christoph



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