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Really guys, come on. Just implement the Citrus UI, in like the next 2 releases you can release a 
beta of it. If you just keep bickering about it, it is never going to happen.

On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Camille Moulin <camille.moulin@free.fr> wrote:

Hi All,

About the radical change of the UI toward a more efficient toolkit, you
might be interested in reading Michael Meeks' presentation for
OOocon2008  "Layout: towards a pretty UI"
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/programme/friday_1470.pdf
I don't know if the technical side is still relevant, but the approach
still stands IMHO.

Camille

On 09/12/2011 05:11, Andrew Pullins wrote:
sean


I know that the main UI devs are against sudden change to the UI, but
there are somethings like this idea of
changing toolkits for at least the gui side of things that DO need to be discussed
sooner rather than later and it would certainly be easier to test new ui
features and ideas by writing them straight into the new UI rather than
have them in the old one.

why is a sudden UI change a bad thing. I know that we can not
just implement Citrus in one release but if we could why would it be such a
bad thing to do. was M$ Office changing there UI to their new ribbon UI
that big a deal. people are going to have to get used to it one way or
another. whether they get it one peace at a timetechnical side  like most FOSS people
will, we just change it on them all at once, or if they change from M$O to
LO. again not to say that we could, would or should do this. we just need
to get away from the 16 year or so old UI and make something new.

and besides its not like the Citrus UI is all that different from the
current one. it is very intuitive, just a little different. I mean what
could possibly be under the page menu... could it be things related to
page... the only thing that you need to get used to is the changing of the
UI. but once you relies that there is no longer any text options because
you have selected an image, and if you where to go back to a area in which
you can start typing they come back, it should all make seance.

and if you think that is strange and you have a M$ Office just go into word
and make a table. you will see a table tools, with new design and lay out
suddenly appear. they released that there are some tools that you do not
need all the time, and should only appear when you do.



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