Re: [libreoffice-design] annnnnd we are back to square one.

Andrew

I don't think you understand what I am trying to say and I also think you
don't know how devs work here and in Free & Open Source projects in general.

If we have to implement UI features one by one you will work on them one by
one, therefore, a roadmap is not that useful as you will have other ideas
with time. Similarly the devs do not have a roadmap of bugs and features.
You may well get familiar with the development processes but do not hope to
convince developers te Citrus is a great idea. Feed them with specs easy to
code instead, you'll get things done much faster.

Best,

Charles.
Le 27 nov. 2011 20:23, "Andrew Pullins" <android2772@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Michel
>
> sorry I did not read that email thread, will take a look at it.
>
> Charles
>
> To keep this simple and without shame of repeating myself:
> > > The developers cannot implement a complete redesign all at once.
> Therefore
> > > you need to push changes one by one. Little by little. In order to do
> this
> > > you need to write specification for each of the UI feature. What has
> been
> > > written so far here and on Mirek's blog needs to be much, much more
> > > detailed.
> Oh My God, I purposed that we make a ROAD MAP. A thing that is a STEP BY
> STEP instruction on how to START implantation of a new UI. parden my
> CAPTIZED words im am getting tired of people telling me that we can not do
> this UI Stuff in on blow. I KNOW THAT.
>
> what I was asking is, was that link [1], a LINK to the devs "Road Map". and
> if it was, I said that it looks like all they have planed for the next year
> is bug fixes, code freeze(which they do not say what code they will be
> working on), and l10n improvements(which they do not explain what that
> means.)
>
> once we understand where the dev team is planing on heading, I perpose that
> we stear them onto our road. and just to remind you that we can not do this
> in one blow, just encase you forgot.
>
> so until then I along with many others think that we should continue our
> talks about Citrus, deside on some things, and start on making
> some specifications. because who the knows there just mite be a dev that
> finds our specification and says, hay I could do that it mite take me a
> [this amount of time], ill start this now. we have a lot of devs, all
> working on many different things. there is no reason that a group of them
> could not step up and start working on some of this.  I had heard some time
> ago that the devs want to get started on this project.
>
>
>
> > To complement Charles answer, may I suggest to re-use the wiki pages
> > created by Christoph Noack to make proposals ?
> > You can see them in the whiteboard section :
> > https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Design/**Whiteboard<
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboard>
>
>
> thank you for showing me this. that was helpful.
>
> And an important point : please create mockups in wireframe.
> > Otherwise, the theme/aesthetic changes may disturb the UX analysis. [1]
>
> [1] http://uxopenofficeorg.**blogspot.com/2010/05/picture-**
> > is-worth-thousand-words.html<
> http://uxopenofficeorg.blogspot.com/2010/05/picture-is-worth-thousand-words.html
> >
>
>
> why wireframe, I know that a lot of UI are made in that but why?
>
> > for example, all ux proposals by Canonical are built with balsamiq :
> > http://www.markshuttleworth.**com/archives/383<
> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/383>
> > http://www.markshuttleworth.**com/archives/333<
> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/333>
>
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
>
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