Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?

Does a UI expert says what he thinks ? Because actually, it seems it should
be disabled (majority seems to think this)

Kévin

2011/10/14 Glenn de Groot <glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com>

> I am using an Asus 10 inch netbook, and disabling the rulers saves a lot of
> space.I can see more of my document without rulers, but disabling looks
> better too, which is the reason I turn off rulers on the desktop too.
> -Glenn
>
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?
> > From: jslozier@gmail.com
> > To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:43:32 -0400
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 22:23 +0200, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote:
> >
> > > Hy
> > >
> > > Personnaly, I always used Rulers (On word 2003, OOo, SYmphony or LibO),
> to
> > > place horizontally text or headers/footers. But I think it's not the
> case of
> > > the majority .
> >
> > I sometimes use the top ruler to set tab type, tab positioning, and
> > indent positioning in Writer. I do not think the default on/off is that
> > critical if switching the behavior is easy. Now, I can click Rulers
> > under View to turn on/off.
> >
> > We could be hinting a broader issue, should some of the default
> > behaviors be confirmed/set at install or first use? If so, which ones
> > should be included? Could there be recommend selections based on the
> > type of hardware environment - desktop with big screen, desktop with
> > small screen, laptop, etc.?
> >
> >
> > > Then, if rulers have to be kept, I think we should try to find a way to
> have
> > > them more discrete, because they are not very sexy, they take a big
> place
> > > and are not used a lot. It should really be investigated what do you
> think ?
> > Probably not used often, but the amount of space they consume is
> > relative to the screen size. On some laptops vertical real estate is
> > lacking but on a desktop with a large monitor it may be an ascetic issue
> > more than anything else. I could understand if someone wanted different
> > defaults on different computers.
> >
> > > Kévin
> > >
> > > PS : Scuse, I've speak a horrible English, I know it.
> > >
> > > 2011/10/13 Andrew Pullins <android2772@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > I never use the rulers, see no need for them in a word processor, or
> in
> > > > a presentation. I can not speak for Mirek now but on his blog he
> talks
> > > > about
> > > > the "Citrus UI" hiding them by default.  but I can say that in his UI
> mock
> > > > ups there are no rulers. here is a link to his blog where he talks
> about it
> > > > http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 2011/10/13 Glenn de Groot <glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello people,
> > > > > > yesterday I had a pretty good idea IMHO.I would like to see the
> ruler
> > > > > > hidden by default in Libre Office 3.5.I know nobody who uses the
> ruler
> > > > > (on
> > > > > > any office application), and I don´t use it either.Microsoft
> Office,
> > > > > Google
> > > > > > Docs and I believe there are others, hide the ruler by
> default.Try it,
> > > > go
> > > > > to
> > > > > > View and deselect the ruler, it makes Libre Office a lot
> simpler.People
> > > > > who
> > > > > > do need the ruler probably know where to find it.
> > > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > > -Glenn de Groot
> > > > > Rulers are useful for direct formatting, I think. Because I never
> use
> > > > > direct
> > > > > formatting I always turn off rulers... ;)
> > > > > There was a discussion (or more precisely, "an attempt to start a
> > > > > discussion") about default values on LibO a couple of months ago.
> Maybe
> > > > we
> > > > > need to restart it.
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Ricardo
> > > > >
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