RE: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?

I am using an Asus 10 inch netbook, and disabling the rulers saves a lot of space.I can see more of 
my document without rulers, but disabling looks better too, which is the reason I turn off rulers 
on the desktop too.
-Glenn

> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Hide ruler by default?
> From: jslozier@gmail.com
> To: design@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:43:32 -0400
>
> Hi all,
>
> On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 22:23 +0200, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: 
>
> > Hy
> >
> > Personnaly, I always used Rulers (On word 2003, OOo, SYmphony or LibO), to
> > place horizontally text or headers/footers. But I think it's not the case of
> > the majority .
>
> I sometimes use the top ruler to set tab type, tab positioning, and
> indent positioning in Writer. I do not think the default on/off is that
> critical if switching the behavior is easy. Now, I can click Rulers
> under View to turn on/off. 
>
> We could be hinting a broader issue, should some of the default
> behaviors be confirmed/set at install or first use? If so, which ones
> should be included? Could there be recommend selections based on the
> type of hardware environment - desktop with big screen, desktop with
> small screen, laptop, etc.?
>
>
> > Then, if rulers have to be kept, I think we should try to find a way to have
> > them more discrete, because they are not very sexy, they take a big place
> > and are not used a lot. It should really be investigated what do you think ?
>
> Probably not used often, but the amount of space they consume is
> relative to the screen size. On some laptops vertical real estate is
> lacking but on a desktop with a large monitor it may be an ascetic issue
> more than anything else. I could understand if someone wanted different
> defaults on different computers. 
>
> > Kévin
> >
> > PS : Scuse, I've speak a horrible English, I know it.
> >
> > 2011/10/13 Andrew Pullins <android2772@gmail.com>
> >
> > > I never use the rulers, see no need for them in a word processor, or in
> > > a presentation. I can not speak for Mirek now but on his blog he talks
> > > about
> > > the "Citrus UI" hiding them by default.  but I can say that in his UI mock
> > > ups there are no rulers. here is a link to his blog where he talks about it
> > > http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2011/10/13 Glenn de Groot <glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Hello people,
> > > > > yesterday I had a pretty good idea IMHO.I would like to see the ruler
> > > > > hidden by default in Libre Office 3.5.I know nobody who uses the ruler
> > > > (on
> > > > > any office application), and I don´t use it either.Microsoft Office,
> > > > Google
> > > > > Docs and I believe there are others, hide the ruler by default.Try it,
> > > go
> > > > to
> > > > > View and deselect the ruler, it makes Libre Office a lot simpler.People
> > > > who
> > > > > do need the ruler probably know where to find it.
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > > -Glenn de Groot
> > > > Rulers are useful for direct formatting, I think. Because I never use
> > > > direct
> > > > formatting I always turn off rulers... ;)
> > > > There was a discussion (or more precisely, "an attempt to start a
> > > > discussion") about default values on LibO a couple of months ago. Maybe
> > > we
> > > > need to restart it.
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Ricardo
> > > >
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