Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Page styles

2011/4/27 RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com>:
> 2011/4/27 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>:
> > Hi Ricardo, all!
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 16:33 +0200 schrieb RGB ES:
> > > 2011/4/27 Rafael Rocha Daud <rwrwdw@yahoo.com.br>:
> > > > I think the advantage on Ricardo's idea is that you create a header/footer
> > > > that comes to existence already filled with some content. It helps to
> > > > visualize what you just created and find it for later ammendments and
> > > > changes, and, like he said, you get to understand more clearly what a
> > > > header/footer is: not a footnote, which is different for each page, but a
> > > > consistent and permanent style thing added to that particular page style.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Rafael./
> > >
> > > Exactly, that's the idea.
> >
> > I just briefly scanned the mails this morning and I think someone
> > already mentioned that pre-filled content is already available when
> > using templates properly ... so the problem is still who designs such
> > header / footer, or how can they get added to the ODF?
>
> Who designs the document
>
> > So, during the day, I thought about different concepts and I remembered,
> > that the "Insert - Header/Footer" stuff has been added some time ago,
> > since people haven't been able to locate where to enable headers/footers
> > (usability problem). Still, I perceive this menu very unusable ...
>
> +1. A full menu with just one entry that gives you something
> completely empty is quite strange, indeed
>
> > So, I quickly drafted something being nothing more than an idea ... have
> > a look, please:
> > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/FRGMVu4Yd9Wftea2VHcTzQ?feat=directlink
> >
> > The message: "Be visual, let people add pre-defined snippets quickly."
> >
> > The core idea: provide pre-defined headers/footers to "fill" the
> > header/footer by using the functionality we already have. The list may
> > contain (and should group): styles delivered with LibreOffice, added by
> > e.g. the company you work for, the header/footer within the current
> > document, ...
>
> Good! The only problem I can see will be when you click "Edit page
> style": with the current design there is nothing you can do from the
> page style to decide the style of the header/footer, so your idea
> needs to be complemented with mine. The union make the force! ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Ricardo

A second iteration for the original proposal (sorry for the low quality image):
https://sites.google.com/site/rgbmldcwriterideas/page-style-2.png
It takes Christoph idea for menus and merge it with the style editor dialogue.
So the idea is that when you click the Header/Footer content button, a
menu opens with some predefined contents and a call for the full
"content editor". There is no need for the full editor to be detached
from the main menu, in the picture it is separated just to present its
functionality. Also, the available tools for the editor were chosen
almost randomly, some thought must be put there.

Cheers
Ricardo

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