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On the topic of this, I had actually proposed an entire redesign of the
installer system in a much earlier post, but in discussions on IRC I was
informed that making alternate UI's for Windows Installer systems is a
pretty difficult task.

~Shawn

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Cesare Leonardi <celeonar@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all.

I'm just a user too, that follows the LibreOffice project with many hopes
and that try to contribute with bug filing and comments.


On 11/03/2011 16:17, Jared Meidal wrote:

When the first step to installing LibreOffice is the prompt to ask
where to extract the install folder immediate confusion comes to many
elementary PC users.  I think this is primarily because this step is
unusual, most Windows-based apps do not contain this step, or hide it
from the user.  I suggest eliminating this step.  Either the
installer file is packaged differently to accomplish this, or it
automatically extracts the MSI, etc. into a "temp" folder in the
background, which is afterwards deleted upon a successful
installation.


I completely agree with you.
I've always found strange using the desktop as temporary folder and also
found strange that the user has to manually delete later this folder.
I concur that this forlder should go to %temp% and that has to be deleted
after the setup completes (even with error).

I'm unsure if can be useful to make a permanent copy of this folder under
the LibreOffice folder in %programfiles%, so that the user can modify his
setup without having to find the original installer.
Tipical use case is, for example, to add Impress if you haven't installed
it in the first place, or to modify file associations, or to restore the
program if something got screwed up.
It wastes disk space but can be useful in many cases.


 The second issue is that the install folder "C:\Program
Files\LibreOffice 3" contains the version number.  This is much
better than the Start Menu\Programs folder "LibreOffice 3.3" which
contains the point version also.  I suggest removing both.  Simply
"LibreOffice" is enough, and is a much more common standard and
expectation for Windows users.


Like Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird, for example.
It's something i do on every setup: i change the folder name deleting the
version. It makes upgrades easier (from a user point of view).
For example, when you upgrade from 2.4 to 3.x (as i'm doing now at work),
many users ends up with a broken quicklaunch program in their startup
folder: if you use version number in folder, quicklaunch is not able to find
itself anymore after upgrade and you have to solve the problem manually.

Another thing that i've always found strange in OpenOffice/LibreOffice
Windows configuration is that, under the Start Menu, LibreOffice programs
are showed with their real name (LibreOffice Writer, LibreOffice Calc, etc),
while if you right-click on the systray icon you can see the localized
document type (i translate from italian: Text document, Spreadsheet,
Presentation).
My workmate believe this is a bug, me just an incoherence.

In my opinion the better solution would be to render identical both
strings, with something like this:
Writer (Text documents)
Calc (Spreadsheet)
Impress (Presentations)
...

Or reversed:
Text documents (Writer)
Spreadsheet (Calc)
...

All the string should be localized, like the ones in the quicklaunch.
And without the "LibreOffice" prefix (as "LibreOffice Writer"), since the
word LibreOffice it is already in the folder name.
This has the good effect of teaching the corrispondence between the name of
the application and what it does. Many employees keeps on calling Excel the
spreadsheet and Word the word processor and ignoring what are Calc and
Writer...  ;-)

Hope to help.

Cesare.


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