Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout

Le Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:44:21 -0500,
Jaron Kuppers <jaronbaron@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> I like both ideas but lean towards Andrews suggestion.
>
> I would like to instead propose a different approach but perhaps from
> a coding perspective it would not be an "easy hack."  There was
> discussion over the years on the OOo list about changing the
> background from the dull gray to something more upbeat.  Perhaps the
> 'shadow' could be integrated into a new customization feature that
> allows the user to change the background and the shadow.
> Unfortunately, I can't recall how difficult this is... (I seem to
> recall some large problem in the code that made this difficult, but
> it may have been an issue).
>
> Cheers,
> Jaron
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Andrew <rugby471@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 04/03/11 07:42, Sébastien Le Ray wrote:
> > > Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:35:11 +0100,
> > > Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com> a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Hi Sébastien, hi all!
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > > Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 14:16 +0100 schrieb Sébastien Le
> > > > Ray:
> > > > > Le Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:59:19 +0000,
> > > > > Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@novell.com> a écrit :
> > > [...]
> > > > Although I didn't see it yet, thanks for your work - I'm really
> > > > looking forward.
> > >
> > > You can find a screenshot on
> > > http://misc.orniz.org/libreoffice/lo-shadow.png book mode is also
> > > handled nicely...
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > >
> > > > However, I'd like to provide some pointers to the Notes stuff -
> > > > it's really worth spending some time digging through some of the
> > > > descriptions (in my point-of-view). I think this is better than
> > > > pre-process most of the stuff, since I'm unaware of your
> > > > likings :-)
> > > >
> > > > The notes main wiki page (Notes2 because of the CWS that time):
> > > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2
> > > >
> > > > Here are the links to the detailed designs that had (sometimes)
> > > > to be adapted due to technical constraints nobody spent the time
> > > > for:
> > > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2#Status_and_Proposals
> > > >
> > > > And once finished with the default stuff, we have lots of further
> > > > ideas: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_OtherIdeas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I've already spend over one year with the Notes
> > > > project being the UX representative, so I'd like to work with
> > > > you on that - if you like :-)
> > >
> > > I'll be pleased to :) It'd be nice to have a "UI tasks" on
> > > libreoffice wiki presenting all tasks that are ready on a Design
> > > point of view but that have not yet been implemented.
> > > There is a lot of stuff on the Note2 wiki page, could you give
> > > priorities on various items?
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > If you are generally interested in working on Usability / Visual
> > > > Design topics (of course, from the developer's point-of-view -
> > > > and we really need some understanding and support here), feel
> > > > invited to subscribe to the Design Team mailing list - some more
> > > > information can be found here:
> > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design
> > >
> > > Subscribed yesterday :-)
> > > It seems that you've been busy with more "marketting" stuff that
> > > UI design lately to cover the launch of LO, FOSDEM and funraising
> > >
> > > Waiting for you priorities & mockups on notes work :-)
> > >
> > > Sébastien
> >
> > Hi All and Sebastien :)
> >
> > Regarding that patch, I think that what we have in that screenshot
> > is a definite improvement, but I feel we could do better, and
> > hopefully without a lot more work.
> >
> > If you look at the mockup I attached to the bug report, I feel this
> > looks a lot more modern and professional.
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=39920

Pretty interesting... I first implemented the "4 borders" shadow but
every people I show it said "it's strange, the shadow should be only
under two borders".

> > I feel if instead of having that shadow aligned to the bottom left,
> > instead it is centred on the page, and we have a slightly larger
> > blur radius we can make it look a lot better.
> >
> > Is this just me, or do other think this as well?

Now that the code is present, we can use almost any image. Shadow is
divided in 4 parts: top right, right, bottom right,  bottom, bottom
left. If you can provide other images I could integrate them (those
ones where more "proof of concept" ones.


> > --
> > Andrew


Regards

Sebastien

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