Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo request for vinyl banner

Hi Jeff, *

Jeff Chimene schrieb:
> Hi Bernard, Drew:
>
> Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions. I /really/
> appreciate your help! I've tried to answer your questions inline below.
> I still have a few of my own.
>
> On 02/06/2011 03:57 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> > Hi Jeff, *
> >
> > Jeff Chimene schrieb:
> > > Hi Folks:
> > >
> > > I'm hoping someone can help w/ this request. I'd like to get a 5' wide
> > > banner for the SCALE event in California at the end of this month.
> > >
> > > Is there an official logo that's at least 600dpi resolution?
> >
> > Please have a look at the  branding wiki page:
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources
>
> Got it. Thanks

So you found the links there in the table? They are different from the 
link you give here
> Drew: I'm thinking this image:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png
This is *not* the official logo file, it just describes how the logo 
should be used.

The links in the table at
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Resources contain 
the logo in different versions. Like the one I mentioned here:
> > The largest exported PNG version is 2000px width

It's direct link in the contemporary version is:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoContemporary_2000px.png

> > but you can use Inkscape with the source file linked
> > there to export larger versions too.
>
> Hi Bernard:
>
> Is that the image here?
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png
>
> If not, where do I find it?
See above.

I can scale it via Gimp.

Please *never* upscale a bitmap to get a larger image (except you want 
to reach the pixelized view as a matter of artistic element).

If you can't use the vector source from the table, I'll create a bitmap 
in the right dimensions for you.
> The printer is named "VistaPrint"

Know it - used it for my private business cards.
> It looks like the best resolution I can get with them is 75 dpi (see below)

So you want a logo in 5' width and 75 dpi resolution?

The file would be 5 (foot) x 12 (inch to foot) x 75 (DPI) = 4500 px  in 
width and 1436 px in height.

The resulting banner would be 5' x 1.596' (1,52m x 0,484m)

I don't know if you want to print the "Basic" or "Contemporary" logo.

While the basic version consists of only two colors (Green and Black), 
the contemporary uses different gradients in the green tone and grey.

I don't know if there will be a difference in the price - the gradient 
between two different green tones will lead to a multitude of colors, so 
it might be more expensive...

> > Especially with posters and banners please remember to include the
> > necessary white space area around the logo in your design.
>
> Right (see below re: full bleed)
>
> > > I see that
> > > there's an interesting design for a vertical banner. Is that design
> > > ready yet?
> >
> > Which design do you talk about?
> > Can you link it here?
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Banner_Rough_Ideas_fromcornouws.png

There are different ideas on the file.

Cor used no 3 on FOSDEM - see below.

> > What size do you need?
>
> Full Bleed Size (starting document size)
> 71.80" x 30.20"
> 1824mm x 767mm
> 5385 x 2265 pixels

That's not the vertical banner - do you speak of the logo banner again?

The logo is not as high as your banner, so it might be positioned in the 
middle (if the banner will hang in the air or at a wall) or at the top 
(if the banner should be pinned to the tables in the booth).
> yield:
> Document Trim Size (final size after being cut)
> 71.53" x 30.00"
> 1817mm x 762mm
> 5365 x 2250 pixels
>
> I realize the DPI is not what I spoke to originally. This is actually
> fewer dpi (75) I was under the impression that VistaPrint could produce
> a high-res banner. Apparently that's not the case. I do have a printer
> in Tucson that can do hi res, but it will be about 3 or 4 times the
> VistaPrint cost.
>
> I'd like some feedback from you folks: do you want a 75 dpi banner, or
> should we go for higher resolution (but more $) Personally, I think the
> "LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Colors_Guidelines_Valid1.png" (if that's
> the logo) will be OK at 75 dpi: graphic edges are straight, sans-serif
> font. At a distance (>  6 feet), I think we can get by for a trade show.

I think 75 dpi per color should be enough, but I'm not that experienced 
in creating vinyl banners.

> If we buy by 10-Feb, we get a free banner which has the following
> dimensions:
>
> Full Bleed Size (starting document size)
> 35.70" x 20.20"
> 907mm x 513mm
> 2678 x 1515 pixels

So you need this size too.

Please avoid scaling from one to another size (and if you need to: 
downscaling to the smaller size is less problematic than upscaling).

It would be best, if you would extract .png bitmap files from the source 
with Inkscape.
> Document Trim Size (final size after being cut)
> 35.50" x 20.00"
> 902mm x 508mm
> 2662 x 1500 pixels
>
> Again, 75 dpi, but up close (<  3 ft) it should be OK.
>
> > Cor used a enlarged version of the installer image for FOSDEM, but there
> > have been some other proposals in the past...
>
> Is that image available?

Yes - it is contained in the Initial Artwork package linked from the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Package.zip

I extracted the file for Cor to a size of 6170 x 11811 px (for a banner 
of 1 m height and 52 cm width in 300 dpi) - would be 4 m in 75 dpi ;-)

Can you tell me the size you want it?

> > [...]
> > Do you already know if your printer can use a bitmap or a SVG vector
> > graphic and RGB colors?
>
> The acceptable formats are:
>
> Adobe Acrobat 9 Document (*.pdf) (recommended)
> Adobe Illustrator CS3 Artwork (*.ai) (recommended)
> Adobe Photoshop CS3 Image (*.psd) (recommended)

If someone owns such an Adobe product, he could load the SVG source file 
and extract the final file, but ...

> Bitmap Image (*.bmp)
> CorelDRAW X4 Document (*.cdr,*.clk)
> GIF Image (*.gif)
> JPEG Image (*.jpg,*.jpeg)
> Microsoft PowerPoint 2010 Document (*.ppt,*.pptx)
> Microsoft Publisher 2010 Document (*.pub)
> Microsoft Word 2010 Document (*.doc,*.docx)
> PCX Image (*.pcx)
> PICT Image (*.pic,*.pict,*.pct)

...this is the file format Inkscape directly extracts to:

> PNG Image (*.png)

So the easiest way is to stay with this format.

> PostScript Document (*.ps)
> Windows Enhanced Metafile (*.emf)
> Windows Metafile (*.wmf)

Best regards

Bernhard

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