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Hi Bernhard,

My comments are pretty much the same as Christoph's.  The 3D look seems out
of place, and a box with handles would look great (as shown in his link).  I
will play with your svg file if you put it up; playing around with it might
spark some ideas for what else could be added.  Draw is a surprisingly tough

I would greatly appreciate if everyone could put their svg files on the wiki

I will playing around with stuff in the next couple days.  Thanks!


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Christoph Noack <>wrote:

Hi Bernhard!

Am Sonntag, den 09.01.2011, 21:21 +0100 schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
Hi all,

Bernhard Dippold schrieb:

(who starts working on the Draw document icon)

Thanks!!! :-)

Here is my first draft:

I used the primitives Christoph suggested for the small versions and
added 3D-effects to the larger icons.

Thanks for that, and great that you already worked on all of the
sizes ...

     * 16 px: Good idea to separate the circle and the triangle in this
     * 32px: From my point of view, the circle and the triangle are a
       bit close. That has also some impact on the "balanced weight" of
       the graphic.
     * 48px+128px:
             * Mmh, as far as I know, there are no 3D objects like that
               (usually they are based on extrusion or rotation) ...
             * To me, the "line" is still a bit inaccessible to connect
               this with the application "Draw" (although it might help
               users of OOo). How about using a plain "rectangle", or
               using some kind of "calligraphy" style line (e.g. small
               ends, thinker middle section)?

Sorry, no more ideas :-\

By the way, I had a look how the ODF icons visualize that these items
are "editable". Stella came up with a great idea to show the "handles":

The curved line people didn't understand as main reference for Draw
(being a vector based graphical tool) is part of the larger icons and
left out in the smaller ones.

I didn't add any secondary color, because the use cases in Christoph's
icons are more or less external resources in the other applications
(image in Writer, chart in Calc) - I don't know anything similar in Draw.

At the moment, this seems to be the same for Base (I hope to show
something this evening...).

But, slight color might also highlight one of the values of Draw - being
a creativity tool (or wanting to become one *g*).

All comments appreciated. If you want to play with the SVG source,
please tell me...


Could you please add this to the wiki, maybe others might work with it,
too. Would be cool!

Oh, before I forget: I've felt free to move the MIME type page to a new
location to make it look more official - at the moment, we all are
working on the icons. It just feels more appropriate ...


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