Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Writer: Problem with Voiceover auf macOS Ventura

Hello Frank,

On 2023-10-24 10:56, Michael Weghorn wrote:
> How exactly VoiceOver announces things is not fully under LibreOffice's 
> control, but from what you write, this sounds like this might actually 
> be related to the role (or specific other properties) that LibreOffice 
> sets on the accessibility layer on macOS.
>
> I'll take a closer look once I have access to a macOS development setup.

I have had the chance to analyze this on macOS.

The announcement of the "collapsed" status/attribute (you wrote 
"reduced", but for me, VoiceOver said "collapsed" in an English-speaking 
macOS setup) was caused by a state that was unhelpfully reported by 
LibreOffice. That's fixed by this change (i.e. will no longer be the 
case in the next LibreOffice version 24.2):
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/158733

The fact that "edit text" an the cursor position is reported when 
switching between paragraphs is probably because LibreOffice is 
representing each paragraph as a separate object (text area) on the 
accessibility layer, while Pages and Word on macOS are reporting a 
single text area object for the whole page from what I can see.
That's nothing that's easy to change and there's already this bug report 
to keep track of it:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67918

Best regards,
Michael

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