Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Writer: Problem with Voiceover auf macOS Ventura

Hello Michael,

thank you for caring. I wish you a good time.

Frank

> Am 24.10.2023 um 10:56 schrieb Michael Weghorn <m.weghorn@posteo.de>:
>
> Hello Frank,
>
> thanks for the additional information you've provided.
> How exactly VoiceOver announces things is not fully under LibreOffice's control, but from what 
> you write, this sounds like this might actually be related to the role (or specific other 
> properties) that LibreOffice sets on the accessibility layer on macOS.
>
> I'll take a closer look once I have access to a macOS development setup.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael
>
> PS: I've added the accessibility mailing list back to the recipients.
>
> On 2023-10-24 10:02, Frank Becker wrote:
> > Hello Michael,
> > Libreoffice does indeed behave differently from Word and Pages. Libreoffice probably presents a 
> > paragraph as a kind of group that I have to enter first. If I end a line with an end of line, 
> > then only the line is read out normally. Only when I start a new paragraph is the announcement 
> > "reduced" read out.
> > If the cursor is not at the beginning of the line, then the position of the cursor is indicated 
> > (cursor in word between the characters O and R).
> > All in all, the behaviour of Libreoffice is annoying. This is because Word files are often sent 
> > among blind and visually impaired people, for example with invitations to an event. And often 
> > the word processor is mistaken for a typewriter where you press the Enter key at the end of the 
> > line.
> > I would find it better if Libreoffice did not regard paragraphs as a group and thus simply read 
> > out each line.
> > Best regards
> > Frank


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