Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Display bindings

Hi :)
Errr, in my questions i am not looking for certainties.  I'm just trying to
get a rough idea of what might be.

I often find that things which initially seem quite easy have some lurking
bug-bear waiting to bite me.  So i'm trying to guess at things that might
have been problems in the past, or might prevent LibreOffice from doing
something like this.

If the answers turn out to be wrong later on then it's likely to be my
fault for asking the wrong questions or not thinking of the right ones.
The worst thing imo would be to put loads of work into getting precise
accurate answers and then find no-one else is interested in going that
route anyway.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 12 December 2014 at 15:55, Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi :)
> If it's trivial and makes it more consistent with other apps then it
> sounds like a really good option.  Such a good option that it worries me
> why it hasn't been done already.  Maybe there is a good reason?
>
> There have been a lot of positive changes in LibreOffice accessibility
> over the last year so maybe that is a factor?  Also maybe other apps (such
> as Firefox) have settled down to being more consistent with each other?
>
> Would such a change create problems for existing users who are used to
> using whatever keyboard short-cuts are currently being used in
> LibreOffice?
>
> If so is it likely to be easy to give people the choice?  At the moment
> there is already a setting in the
> Tools - Options
> that allows people to choose between "LibreOffice dialogues" and "native
> dialogues".  Would something like that be necessary to try to keep the
> existing users happy?  If so would it be easy?
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> On 12 December 2014 at 15:28, V Stuart Foote <VStuart.Foote@utsa.edu>
> wrote:
> > Niklas,
> >
> > Sure, we could  make a distinction as Microsoft does, between the "access
> > key" and a "keyboard accelerator/shortcut-key".
> >
> > But, as you know the majority of AT support in OOo and derivatives like
> > LibreOffice is structured around the accessibleRole assigned to an
> > object--and from that comes accessibleName  and "access key" attributes if
> > any.
> >
> > For objects that have VCL or UI based "access keys" attributes, those are
> > exposed to the UNO Accessibility API as the object is navigated, and the
> > respective native accessibility bridge handles it--as the user has
> > configured.
> >
> > Menu items and GUI widgets (buttons, spinners, etc.)  that do not have an
> > "access key" assigned will sound either the objects name or it's tooltip.
> > Those that do, will also sound the name and the "access key".
> >
> > With the shift of most of the GUI to UI, most "access keys" no longer are
> > <Alt>+letter combinations. Rather they are just the letter -- and that
> > might
> > need to be adjusted at some point.
> >
> > But global "keyboard accelerator/shortcuts-keys",  normally structured
> > with
> > <Ctrl>+letter, or <Ctrl>+<Shift>+letter are not otherwise exposed to AT as
> > they are not associated with the UI object.
> >
> > Anyhow, looking at a Firefox session, there they have simply adjusted the
> > objects accessibleName  and are appending the global shortcut-key to the
> > name!   Nothing special.  The "access key" associated with the accessible
> > object is exposed with AT.  It is exactly the same with Adobe Reader.
> >
> > So, we could do the same, pretty trivial as it is only label changes, and
> > some coordination with the l10n/i18n teams.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> >
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