Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac

Hi,

Thanks for this excellent answer, full and clear. I will forward it to 
my friend. He uses Mac yes, and would like to know the accessibility 
level on LO. Unfortunately he doesn't speak English, but I do interface 
without problems.

Thanks,

Best regards,

Le 03/12/2014 14:56, Niklas Johansson a écrit :
> Hi Jean-Philippe
>
> Well, I'd say that we have basic working accessibility support on Mac. 
> It is by far the platform that needs most love when it comes to 
> accessibility. But it is possible to work with VoiceOver to edit text, 
> Calc sheets and so on. Basic text formatting such as bold, italic, 
> font size and alignment is available thanks to Boris work one and a 
> half year ago. Also information of spelling errors can be presented. 
> Style formatting is worse, I guess an ugly way to find out the current 
> style is to open Styles and formatting by pressing Command + T, the 
> current style is sadly not presented automatically so you need to 
> arrow down one and back up again to have the style presented.
>
> We have problems with all menus except top level menus, so in other 
> words combo boxes, drop down buttons and context menus are not 
> accessible at the moment.
> Also VoiceOver commands are not always implemented correctly so 
> keyboard shortcuts don't always work as in other Mac applications.
> LibreOffice had issues with text boxes in dialogs, but I believe I 
> have found a way to fix it, or possibly someone else have fixed it in 
> master during my experimentations with the code,  either way it will 
> likely be fixed soon. I'll keep trying to improve the situation but to 
> be honest my knowledge is not always good enough, but I learn as I go. 
> I'm doing this in my spare time and it is quite frankly I do not have 
> enough spare time. I'm alone in translating into Swedish so I'm quite 
> swamped with translation work at the moment.
>
> I would love to have contact with anyone that might be using VoiceOver.
>
> Regards,
> Niklas Johansson
>
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe skrev den 2014-12-03 10:38:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Thanks for this info. Actually I wonder how LO behaves with 
> > voiceover, that is, is it possible to browse between toolbars, in the 
> > menus, the dialogs, etc. For example, is it easy to handle styles and 
> > charachters formatting?
> >
> > The question is asked to me by a blind user to do tests. I am aware 
> > of the lack of resource for this architectuure, but I wonder if 
> > someone tested anyway;
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > ----- Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > > Le 03/12/2014 00:52, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
> > >
> > > Hi Jean-Philippe
> > >
> > >
> > > > Does someone is LibreOffice is accessible with VoiceOver as 4.3.4?
> > > Accessible in which way ?
> > >
> > > My recent testing of VoiceOver on OSX 10.10.1 and LO 4334 and master
> > > build 4.5.0 alpha shows that it mostly works for announcing text
> > > paragraphs from a pre-existing Writer document and using keyboard
> > > commands to jump from one text block to another.
> > >
> > > I haven't tested speech input, if that is what you are asking about.
> > > There is an open, as yet unconfirmed, bug report that speech input
> > > stopped working with LO 4.3.
> > >
> > > The simple fact of the matter is that there are very few Mac QA 
> > > testers,
> > > and even fewer that use or need VoiceOver, one of the reasons being 
> > > that
> > > assistive technology tools tended to cause LO to crash in previous
> > > versions, and thus general advice was to deactivate them when using LO.
> > >
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
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