[libreoffice-accessibility] Re: Re : [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: LO and Mac

Hi Jean-Philippe

Well, I'd say that we have basic working accessibility support on Mac. 
It is by far the platform that needs most love when it comes to 
accessibility. But it is possible to work with VoiceOver to edit text, 
Calc sheets and so on. Basic text formatting such as bold, italic, font 
size and alignment is available thanks to Boris work one and a half year 
ago. Also information of spelling errors can be presented. Style 
formatting is worse, I guess an ugly way to find out the current style 
is to open Styles and formatting by pressing Command + T, the current 
style is sadly not presented automatically so you need to arrow down one 
and back up again to have the style presented.

We have problems with all menus except top level menus, so in other 
words combo boxes, drop down buttons and context menus are not 
accessible at the moment.
Also VoiceOver commands are not always implemented correctly so keyboard 
shortcuts don't always work as in other Mac applications.
LibreOffice had issues with text boxes in dialogs, but I believe I have 
found a way to fix it, or possibly someone else have fixed it in master 
during my experimentations with the code,  either way it will likely be 
fixed soon. I'll keep trying to improve the situation but to be honest 
my knowledge is not always good enough, but I learn as I go. I'm doing 
this in my spare time and it is quite frankly I do not have enough spare 
time. I'm alone in translating into Swedish so I'm quite swamped with 
translation work at the moment.

I would love to have contact with anyone that might be using VoiceOver.

Regards,
Niklas Johansson

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe skrev den 2014-12-03 10:38:
> Hi.
>
> Thanks for this info. Actually I wonder how LO behaves with voiceover, that is, is it possible to 
> browse between toolbars, in the menus, the dialogs, etc. For example, is it easy to handle styles 
> and charachters formatting?
>
> The question is asked to me by a blind user to do tests. I am aware of the lack of resource for 
> this architectuure, but I wonder if someone tested anyway;
>
> Regards
>
> ----- Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgood@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > Le 03/12/2014 00:52, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe a écrit :
> >
> > Hi Jean-Philippe
> >
> >
> > > Does someone is LibreOffice is accessible with VoiceOver as 4.3.4?
> > Accessible in which way ?
> >
> > My recent testing of VoiceOver on OSX 10.10.1 and LO 4334 and master
> > build 4.5.0 alpha shows that it mostly works for announcing text
> > paragraphs from a pre-existing Writer document and using keyboard
> > commands to jump from one text block to another.
> >
> > I haven't tested speech input, if that is what you are asking about.
> > There is an open, as yet unconfirmed, bug report that speech input
> > stopped working with LO 4.3.
> >
> > The simple fact of the matter is that there are very few Mac QA testers,
> > and even fewer that use or need VoiceOver, one of the reasons being that
> > assistive technology tools tended to cause LO to crash in previous
> > versions, and thus general advice was to deactivate them when using LO.
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
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