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Hi :)
Would it be possible for someone to copy the code en-masse to make sure we get it all.  Then we can 
pick through what bits we can't keep later?
Regards from
Tom :)  





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From: Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
To: 'Simon Eigeldinger' <simon.eigeldinger@vol.at>; accessibility@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2012, 18:46
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

Some Symphony code has been donated to Apache OpenOffice, including the IAccessibility2 support.  
The IP in the code needs to be cleaned up; the current approach is to clean the license as it is 
integrated into AOO.  One of the Symphony-experienced developers just set up a branch to do the 
IAccessibility2 integration, which would then be available under Apache ALv2 license. 

It is difficult to know how this work will advance to readiness for integration into a release, 
although it might be available for cherry-picking into LibreOffice before that.

For anyone wanting to follow-along at home, the code branch is in the AOO SVN at
<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2/>.  I haven't paid attention enough to 
know if any check-ins have happened yet.

- Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Eigeldinger [mailto:simon.eigeldinger@vol.at] 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:06
To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] where's the accessibility?

hi,

i just had time to check it out a little bit better.

here are some examples:

Using NVDA daily build Main 5723, java 7 update 9 with accessibility bridge:

Writer:
Start writer and then open the export as pdf dialog. you might be 
figuring out that you can't navigate the dialog with the tab key. or 
actually you can but the accessibility bridge seems not to know what to 
do with that dialog at all.
also when you wrote something and you exit you can't read the dialog 
where it asks you if it should save the changes to the document.

calc:
start calc then enter some numbers for example in a1 you type 422 then 
you down arrow to go to the next cell and enter 319 in a2. then you 
arrow back up again to a1 and you might figure out that the screenreader 
kind of gets interupted by saying something of toolbar and other stuff.


there are also more things like it seems that the options dialog seems 
not to be accessible sometimes.

i read somewhere that IBM symphony has been discontinued and IBM might 
donate some code to LibreOffice.
Let's hope they also donate the accessibility code as well cause i heard 
it works nicely with windows screenreaders.

greetings,
simon




Am 11.12.2012 20:07, schrieb V Stuart Foote:
Simon,

Good that you now have working Accessibility with LibreOffice Assistive
Technology tools.  But as you've now experienced for Windows users there are
warts between what is implemented in the UNO Accessibility API (UAA)  and
what is passed to Java Accessibility API (JAA) via the Java Access Bridge.

Try to identify specifics of what you believe is not working.  Also,  work
against an example document that you can share with developers and QA
volunteers. Be specific as it would need to be reproducible and we'll need
to be able to isolate the accessibility component that is involved.  In a
sense build a test case, one that could be tested on Windows as well as on
Linux and OSX.

Stuart



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