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I'm simply going by the fact that the statement on the Symphony donation singled out IAcessible2 
for mention.

I copied Malte in my original note.  I hope he can clarify that to everyone's satisfaction.  It may 
depend on how the code base is brought to Apache. Malte will know better.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Strobbe [] 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 05:08
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice, screen reader, Windows

Hi Dennis,

At 20:02 16-7-2011, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
The IAccessible2 was apparently not given to Oracle.

Can you clarify what the source of this statement is?
At FOSDEM 2011 (February), Malte Timmermann said that IBM had donated 
the IAccessible2 implementation to Oracle and that he was in the 
process of integrating and testing this code.

However, it is mentioned as one feature that will be donated to the 
Apache project as part of the contribution of the 
standalone Symphony software:

My understanding is that this is a separate contribution from the 
previously mentioned IAccessible2 implementation.

There is an earlier contribution that is apparently in the code base but might not have been incorporated in a 
distribution at this point.

Which contribution are you referring to now?

Best regards,

Christophe Strobbe

You are at the right place to find out whether that is being pulled 
into LibreOffice or not.  Malte [Timmermann] is mentioned as having 
some knowledge of the status on  The Symphony 
contribution has not occurred yet and it will probably not start to 
be pulled apart for features to integrate into future Apache 
OpenOffice releases until after the contribution has 
been absorbed. With regard to licensing, anything available from 
Apache is available under the Apache License version 2 (ALv2 to its 
friends).  This is a permissive license that is not copyleft but it 
is compatible with the [L]GPL family of licenses.  There is no 
limitation that would prevent integration, with whatever 
modifications are necessary, into LibreOffice, once an IAccessible2 
implementation is available on Apache.


PS: One interesting wrinkle being discussed on is the possible use of DITA for 
authoring the integrated help and other materials.  DITA is a form 
of single-source authoring that has multiple targets.  It is also an 
OASIS Standard.  This may be an advantage in making these materials 
accessible.  Just something to think about in terms of potential 
future value.  It is premature for there to be a decision about this 
at Apache, but the fact that the Symphony project is already using 
DITA may become a factor.

 -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL 
[] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 18:53 
To: Subject: 
[libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice, screen reader, Windows Hi, 
My point of starting is: while Libreoffice is accessible all right 
with the screen reader Orca with GNU/Linux, it's absolutely not 
usable with NVDA on Windows. The problem: it makes loose the 
credibility of the free software, which is installed in public 
administrations, and problematic for blind people. So I would like 
us to work very much about this, with testers, and developpers 
which are mandatory. During Libre Software Meeting, I was told that 
IBM had written a module to make OOo accessible. If I understand, 
its name is "Iaccessible2". Really? If it is right, it seemed it 
was given to Oracle. Now the question is: where's this code? In 
Apache foundation? Oracle? or could Libreoffice ship this in the 
fork? Can we fetch it from Apache if it's there and what are 
license conditions (I don't know Apache License)? Is it 
implemented? If it is not, who can I contact to find this code and 
allow to integrate it in LibreOffice? If it is, could you help me 
for identifiation, so that I see with NVDA what's possible? I read 
today Rob Weir who seems to say that this code is in OOo from 
Apache, and in Symphony too. Can you tell me if we can find it 
there so and ship it on Libreoffice? Thanks for your answer. 
Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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