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Hi Dennis,

At 20:02 16-7-2011, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
The IAccessible2 was apparently not given to Oracle.

Can you clarify what the source of this statement is?
At FOSDEM 2011 (February), Malte Timmermann said that IBM had donated the IAccessible2 implementation to Oracle and that he was in the process of integrating and testing this code.

However, it is mentioned as one feature that will be donated to the Apache project as part of the contribution of the standalone Symphony software: <>

My understanding is that this is a separate contribution from the previously mentioned IAccessible2 implementation.

There is an earlier contribution that is apparently in the code base but might not have been incorporated in a distribution at this point.

Which contribution are you referring to now?

Best regards,

Christophe Strobbe

You are at the right place to find out whether that is being pulled into LibreOffice or not. Malte [Timmermann] is mentioned as having some knowledge of the status on The Symphony contribution has not occurred yet and it will probably not start to be pulled apart for features to integrate into future Apache OpenOffice releases until after the contribution has been absorbed. With regard to licensing, anything available from Apache is available under the Apache License version 2 (ALv2 to its friends). This is a permissive license that is not copyleft but it is compatible with the [L]GPL family of licenses. There is no limitation that would prevent integration, with whatever modifications are necessary, into LibreOffice, once an IAccessible2 implementation is available on Apache.


PS: One interesting wrinkle being discussed on is the possible use of DITA for authoring the integrated help and other materials. DITA is a form of single-source authoring that has multiple targets. It is also an OASIS Standard. This may be an advantage in making these materials accessible. Just something to think about in terms of potential future value. It is premature for there to be a decision about this at Apache, but the fact that the Symphony project is already using DITA may become a factor.

-----Original Message----- From: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL [] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 18:53 To: Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice, screen reader, Windows Hi, My point of starting is: while Libreoffice is accessible all right with the screen reader Orca with GNU/Linux, it's absolutely not usable with NVDA on Windows. The problem: it makes loose the credibility of the free software, which is installed in public administrations, and problematic for blind people. So I would like us to work very much about this, with testers, and developpers which are mandatory. During Libre Software Meeting, I was told that IBM had written a module to make OOo accessible. If I understand, its name is "Iaccessible2". Really? If it is right, it seemed it was given to Oracle. Now the question is: where's this code? In Apache foundation? Oracle? or could Libreoffice ship this in the fork? Can we fetch it from Apache if it's there and what are license conditions (I don't know Apache License)? Is it implemented? If it is not, who can I contact to find this code and allow to integrate it in LibreOffice? If it is, could you help me for identifiation, so that I see with NVDA what's possible? I read today Rob Weir who seems to say that this code is in OOo from Apache, and in Symphony too. Can you tell me if we can find it there so and ship it on Libreoffice? Thanks for your answer. Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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