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Hi Massimo,

On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:18:41 +0200, Massimo Vettoretti
<> wrote:
Il giorno 13/apr/2011, alle ore 19.09, Christophe Strobbe ha scritto:

Can you do all these things in iWork Pages or other office suites that
available for Mac OS (NeoOffice, IBM Lotus Symphony)? If yes, then we
should look at registering bugs for LibreOffice.
The only thing I am not sure about, is table browsing and editing. For
the rest, yes. Pages is not  very very accessible, but in other word
processing applications (scrivener or Bean)  those informations are
available to Voice Over.

OK, thanks. Tables are always tricky with a screen reader.

"Format Paragraph" and "Format Character" are dialogs with tabbed
interfaces. When you say "category" are you referring to the different
in these dialogs or to groupings of controls inside the tabs?
It is difficult to know. All I can do for you, is writing a list of what
call categories: Font, Font Effects, Position, Background. This is for 
character dialog. All these items are recognized by Voice Over as

It seems that VoiceOver reads tabs as buttons. Here is the list of tabs in
the Character dialog:
Font, Font Effects, Position, Asian Layout, Hyperlink, Background.
(It is possible that Asian Layout is not available if you have not enabled
Asian languages in the LibreOffice options.)

The list of tabs in the Paragraph dialog is:
Indents & Spacing, Alignment, Text Flow, Asian Typography, Outline &
Numbering, Tabs, Drop Caps, Borders, Background.

On Windows, I go from tab page to tab page by pressing Ctrl+Tab; I don't
know what the corresponding key combination is on Mac OS.
When I am on a tab page, I use the Tab key to navigate the controls inside
it. I believe Mac OS also use the Tab key for this.

What should I do next? Provide lists of controls in each of the tabpages
in the dialogs?

Can anyone with access to a Mac system do this and report back if
are actually connected with the corresponding controls?

I will in the evening. I have no  dev tools installed on the machine I
writing from. Of course,  I'll do it if the accessibility inspector is
Voice over accessible... witch remains to be seen... :-)

I was also wondering if the Accessibility Inspector is accessible. That is
why I would like to know if anyone else on this list has access to Mac OS.

Do you know how and where to report bugs?

Absolutely not. Can you  enlighten me?

LibreOffice bugs are reported at <>, so
before entering new bugs, you need to create an account there.
You can then search Bugzilla to check whether the bug has been reported
There is a page with further details at

Best regards,


Have a good day.

Christophe Strobbe
K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD
Research Group on Document Architectures
Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442
B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee
tel: +32 16 32 85 51
Twitter: @RabelaisA11y

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