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Le 2011-06-29 14:23, Craig Olofson a écrit :
Hello US Marketing;

I've been thinking for a long while about real-time collaboration and LibO.
I can't shake the idea that TDF should, at least, address this publicly.
The problem is, I still don't understand how to start a conversation like
this w/in a F/OSS organization like TDF.  So, I have two requests: Please,

- review and comment the following "feature request" for clarity&  relevance
- give me an idea or two on how I can make a good-faith effort for this to
be widely considered w/in TDF (e.g. do I just post it to global marketing?)


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Hello all;

I have been looking for pre-existing discussions of this issue
throughout TDF, the developer's mailing list and LibO's bug-reporting
system.  If I have overlooked a project already in progress, I apologize
and ask for the current references.  It is my belief that we need to
formulate and advertise an articulate, unified story on this.
Hopefully, this format isn't too formal or unfamiliar.  I chose it to
emphasize readability and comprehension.

*Feature Request: Real-time LibreOffice Collaboration*

*Synopsis*: Real-time collaboration for all LibreOffice modules, across all

*Date*: 2011-01-29

*Origin*: Requested by Tihomir[1]

*Status*: NEW, UNASSIGNED Bug 33704[2]

*What*: To enable editing, commenting&  versioning of LibreOffice
documents, in real-time, among an ad-hoc collection of users. Across all
LibreOffice modules and all operating systems. Cloud-flavor agnostic as
possible (in other words; webdav, google docs, skydrive storage, iCloud

*Why*: By enabling this feature-set, TDF will guarantee LibO's relevance for
the next ten years.  More specifically:

    * Current users are clamoring for feature-set[3].  As a corollary,
      this also indicates that we are already losing current and
      prospective customers.
    * Education, governments and SME are accelerating adoption of this
    * Current solutions problematic vis-à-vis UI/UX, support[5]
    * Feature-parity w/SkyDrive&  365, Google Docs&  Apple iCloud[6]
    * Comparative advantage: 1) Completely portable data, 2) Free as in
      free speech data mgmt, 3) Usability issues addressed[7]
    * Instant validation: TDF has an advisory board members who are
      fully vested in social-enabled, cloud-aware&  collaboration-ready
      markets and technologies. They can easily validate (or invalidate)
      this feature-set request[8]
    * Small window of opportunity: Conservative analyst project 30% of
      SME will have deployed their Cloud strategies by 2012[9]
    * Balkanization of customer base: Assuming that real-time
      collaboration is a trend that is here to stay, we can see that
      organizations and individuals are currently adopting whatever
      makes sense.  What does it mean for LibO when individual members
      on a modern, ad-hoc, cross-divisional team each have different
      cloud accounts?


   1. tihokibertron AT gmail DOT com
   3. (Google Docs support forum)
   4. (Avanade Research FY11 download)&,2817,2387469,00.asp
   6. e.g. (parity)
   7. e.g.; advantage)
   8. (TDF advisory announcement)
   9. e.g. (Gartner presentation download)

HI Craig

I think you are talking about a "discussion" on this feature request. It should then be taken up on the "discussion" list. This is where we participate at giving facts/opinions/application etc on specific topics. I think that most of us are on the discussion list. Many great ideas have been taken up on the discussion list with some threads being quite long and others short. The longer threads seem to be those where a possible fix is not really possible at this time.

Re: specifically this topic, if you browse through the past discussions, you will find that this has been discussed many times and I think the general feeling is that we know that real-time collaboration is important, but, at this point, the devs (who really run the show) are not ready to turn their whole attention to this. The LibreOffice product is being "cleaned up" and bugs quashed. There also does not seem to be a group of dev showing any interest on this which is also the "show stopper".

IMHO, nothing wrong with throwing it out on the discussion thread (again) to keep it live, expect to be told by some that it has already been discussed. If you want to make your point on this, put it out at that point, and, if you think you can present a good solid case for it, add it to the "ideas" wiki page for future reference. It will come up again for sure. I know as an educator, this is also what I would want with LibreOffice, and, more in particular, if this were even possible on a LAN as well as on the net.



Marc Paré

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