Re: [us-marketing] Re: LinuxFest NorthWest Report

On 05/04/2011 10:34 AM, C. Olofson wrote:
> On 05/04/2011 05:38 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> > On 05/04/2011 06:06 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
> > > Hi Tim et al
> > >
> > > Le 2011-05-03 19:11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :
> > > > I would like to ask, Is there a market for a CD or a CD set instead of
> > > > DVD? I have been looking at what is needed if the NA style DVD is 
> > > > broken
> > > > down to CDs for business systems that do not have DVDs, and still have
> > > > all the included material of the DVD[s]. Most of the businesses 
> > > > that do
> > > > not have budgets to buy newer computer will not have a DVD 
> > > > installed in
> > > > their business machines. So having only DVD style media will not work
> > > > for them.
> > >
> > > I used to be a whitebox retailer. Unless things have changed, CD 
> > > drives no longer come standard on boxes. Most whiteboxes boxes come 
> > > with no CD/DVD drives. You have to add these If companies still have 
> > > CD's on their machines, they are really outdated by today's standard 
> > > ... DVD's were added as standard drives quite a few years ago. So, 
> > > very few businesses will have CD drives. Also, if a company is still 
> > > making use of CD-drive boxes, a DVD drive (external) is very cheap 
> > > to buy or construct and is most cases deductible for tax purposes. 
> > > There are very few if any reason for any business not to install or 
> > > purchase a DVD drive for business purposes -- less than $100 or even 
> > > $50.
> > As of last year, there were still many "city" computers that were old 
> > enough to only have CDs.  Several of the State agencies that I deal 
> > with for a group do not have more than a third of their computers 
> > having DVDs.  There are still a lot of CD computers out there that 
> > never have been upgraded to DVD.  I wonder how many school machines 
> > are new enough to have a DVD drive in it.  I know that if a DVD drive 
> > costs more than a CD drive, the school would have bought the CD 
> > version to save money.  Now that the DVD is the standard drive, only 
> > the newest computers would have them.  In 2003, there were still many 
> > computers running Win 95 and Win 98.  With the way budgets are 
> > reduced every year, most places are not going to spend it on new[er] 
> > computers if the ones they have still work.  At the place where I 
> > live, last year HUD reduced their payments by $250,000.  This year it 
> > is almost $300,000 less than last year's amount.  So any 
> > Federal/State/Local government funded office or agency has been 
> > feeling the pinch.  So it may be a good thing for getting LibreOffice 
> > into their offices as a cost saving issue, but we will need to be 
> > able to have CDs for their older systems.
> > > A case could however be made for a personal box have only a CD 
> > > drive, in which case a $25 or even $15 DVD drive is easily added.
> > Yes, I love external drives.  Now they even have them powered by the 
> > USB port as well.  I have a CD/DVD burner as an external since it 
> > costs $75 to replace this LightScribe burner when it costs over $250 
> > to replace the internal one for my laptop[s].
> > > Emerging economy countries will most likely be the countries where a 
> > > CD version will be needed.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Marc
> > I was thinking about a media set.  You can buy at Tigerdirect.com a 
> > four disc DVD case.  I bought the ten-pack when I bought my thin DVD 
> > cases.  Although you will not have as much space as a DVD with four 
> > CDs, you still can fit a lot of stuff on them.  I was thinking that 
> > CD set would start out as a Windows CD set, with a different one for 
> > Linux, if needed.  Same with MacOSX.
>
> How about waiting on this one?
This is low on my list for thing to do.  Have about 5 to 8 other things 
on my list before creating a CD set for LibreOffice.  By the time I get 
ready, 3.4 may be out, and then I have to update the current DVDs to the 
new file versions.

> Unless there's a particular urgency here, I think the cost/benefit 
> will show itself much more clearly over time.  Right now, we're 
> providing LibO via two different media: DVD & download.  That's a 
> solid foundation from which to start.
>
> As we continue to get these releases into people's (organizations') 
> hands, their responses will clear this issue up.  The only reason I 
> bring this up is that:
>
> 1) we don't have a handle on the /scale/ of the need
> 2) "product proliferation" has its own set of costs
>
> fwiw, ymmv, etc
>
> Best,
> -Craig


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