Re: [libreoffice-website] Upcoming change to macOS downloads in 24.8

Would it be possible to keep building the lang packs with help AND ui
localizations (and the latter just overwrite the existing ones in the new
install) and also build an English only install dmg, just like now?
So - all the lang pack that are being built now remain the same, just add
an all-in UI LO installer and en-US UI LO installer ...

Lp, m.

V V sob., 2. mar. 2024 ob 02:48 je oseba Patrick Luby <guibomacdev@gmail.com>
napisala:

> Hi Christian,
>
> Very good point. I admit that I really only looked at download size. So,
> today I did a comparison to see how much extra disk the UI files will add.
> Here’s what I did:
>
> Current installer - Built master with the following commented-out
> autogen.input lines:
>    #--without-helppack-integration
>    #--with-lang=ALL
> Proposed installer - Built master with the proposed change’s patch and
> with the following autogen.input lines:
>    --without-helppack-integration
>    --with-lang=ALL
>
> This resulted in the following installation sizes:
>    1809 MB  Current installer
>    2030 MB  Proposed installer
>
> That’s an increase in disk usage of approximately 221 MB. Note: these are
> debug builds so both sizes are larger than release builds. So if added to
> the LibreOffice 24.2.1 release, installation sizes would be:
>     803 MB  LibreOffice 24.2.1 ARM installer
>    1024 MB  Proposed installer
>
> I think that the big question is whether a ~25% increase will cause a user
> revolt? My hope is that nearly all users feel the change is OK or don’t
> care. But you are probably right that some users will not like this change.
>
> So here are two things that I can do when the inevitable bug reports and
> Reddit posts show up:
> - Give my pitch: “English is not the primary language for most LibreOffice
> users. By adding only ~ 5% disk space, nearly all users will see
> LibreOffice in their own language immediately after installation just like
> English users always have.”
> - Give instructions on how to manually delete the localized files that
> they don’t want. I think I can take the list of localized files, write a
> short script and/or set of steps, and post it on a LibreOffice wiki page.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Patrick
>
>
> > On Mar 1, 2024, at 7:14 AM, Christian Lohmaier <lohmaier@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Patrick, *,
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 8:57 PM Patrick Luby <guibomacdev@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > It’s great to hear that this upcoming change is feasible.
> >
> > Be ready for some pushback from a handful users though - while on
> > Windows every UI language is included in the installer, only the
> > language matching the Windows' UI language is installed by
> > default/others have to be selected manually in custom setup (and also
> > have option to pick individual dictionaries/writing aids.
> > But mac users will get everything installed, and since macs generally
> > have only little storage in their base configurations, some users
> > might be vocal about "wasting their diskspace"
> >
> > Certainly not a problem in itself, after all the appstore version also
> > is just as large/includes all languages already - it is just that
> > you'll only hear from those who are "annoyed" and not from those who
> > don't care or are happy about the changes.
> >
> > ciao
> > Christian
>
>
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