Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page: Make the 'stable' version more prominent?

Le 2014-04-22 09:29, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
> <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> > I strongly advocate against it; it would only create more confusion 
> > and
> > continue into the storyline that fresh=unstable and stable=good.
>
> Hmm.. perhaps the word "stable" is problematic in this situation. If
> we call the branch with less churn 'stable,' that does imply something
> about the stability of other branches that are under more active
> development.

That is what I think too. While Stable gets the right message in a 
comparison with "Fresh", the second message it sends might indeed be 
that if this one's stable the other one is not.
I∕we welcome other terms, by the way. I thought about "mature"

> > No one puts an older software branch in front of the more recent 
> > branch.
> > Does MS Office advertise MS Office 2010? :-)
>
> Good point, although I think our situation might be a bit different. 
> Consider:
>
> * We push updates to the LO 'stable' branch. Does Microsoft push the
> same kinds of updates to Office 2010?


Absolutely, yes. They're called Service Packs.



> * (I believe) we recommend our 'stable' branch for enterprise
> deployment. Does Microsoft recommend Office 2010 for enterprise
> deployment?

There's never been a real statement on that, despite what we have 
written here and there or rather, it's more a consequence than a true 
choice. While MS may not recommend MS Office 2010, they do suggest and 
understand (contrary to a lot of people faced with a LibreOffice 
migration) that it starts early, with a recent branch,through a pilot 
project for upgrade or migration . Just like with MS Office, LibreOffice 
gets tested, and in the interim, not only has this branch of LibreOffice 
received more recent versions (the x.x.2,3,4,5), it has also become the 
older branch. It is how it works.

Now MS may not recommend MS Office 2010, but they certainly, in 
practice, encourage enterprise deployments that come with Service Packs 
and not the most recent release. Same goes with the ongoing migration to 
Windows 7 by the way.


> In some ways this might just boil down to the question of: "What's our
> use case for the 'stable' branch?"

good point. From a purely analytical perspective - hence this is not a 
use case:
- less features, more patches.
Hence: more stability. That's where it becomes tricky, reminding 
everyone that:
- Fresh: same patches, more features... hence more bugs. But that's a 
fact of life, not an engineering failure.

In this sense it's right for the enterprise. And then yes, that would be 
the use case: a more "stable" as in "rock-solid" release. The rest of 
the world can use the Fresh version, and not just "early adopters". For 
goodness sake, it's an office suite, not a bleeding edge Linux distro 
;-)

Best,

Charles.


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