Re: [libreoffice-website] Too much emphasys on donation?

For what it's worth, here is what the donation pages clearly states upfront and not in footer notes:


"[...] Your donation, which is purely optional, [..]"
in big fat green characters.

it also states:
"Your download LibreOffice_4.2.2_MacOS_x86-64.dmg should begin
shortly. Please click the link in case it doesn't start."


So far it is worth noting we have received very few complaints about this. 

Best, 

Charles. 


On 2 avril 2014 08:20:51 CEST, "Charles-H. Schulz" <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> Hello Pedro,
>
> On 2 avril 2014 00:09:12 CEST, Pedro <pedlino@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Apparently some users feel obligated and compelled to donate in order
> > to be
> > able to download.
> > http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/29380/how-can-you-say-its-free-when-theres-no-way-to-get-rid-of-the-money-amounts/
> > http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/23053/why-cant-i-even-start-a-download-i-donated-the-default-amount/
> >
> > One is actually offering to PAY to skip the donation page on each
> > update
> > http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/32239/donation-methods/
>
> That is a bit strange since you do not have to pay anything to download
> LibreOffice.  Besides LibreOffice is gree as in speech before being
> free as in beer as FOSS is about freedom but not price. Anyway...
>
>
>
> > Please look at the download page (which is by coincidence entitled
> > Donate...)
> > http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/win-x86/4.2.2/en-US/LibreOffice_4.2.2_Win_x86.msi
> >
> > It's a whole page about Donation with a small link to the built-in
> > Help...
>
>
> Two things here.  You can reach the download page, click on the main
> link and the download starts but in the mean time tje donation page
> appears.  On its side there is a button to download the built in help.
> What id wrong with that?
>
> > For a Free Open Source software from a Foundation whose goal is to "to
> > eliminate the digital divide in society by giving everyone access to
> > office
> > productivity tools free of charge" don't you think that there is too
> > much
> > pressure on users to donate???
>
>
> No.  We rely on these donations to ensure the project and the
> foundation works. 
>
> What is pressure is to force people to pay hundreds of dollars or euros
> for a proprietary office suite and make them believe that is their only
> choice.
>
> Another pressure is to complain that we are never 100% compatible with
> closed formats and that it is our fault.
>
> > Apparently some users feel that... >Maybe the page needs a re-design?
>
> 1. This is the same mecanism as with the old website
>
> 2. Anybody could provide his or her feedback on the new website specs.
>
> 3. There will always be some disgruntled users.
>
> 4. Personal comment: I have yet to see a post from you that does not
> look like a rant. But then I cannot do much about it.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Charles. 
>
>
> > Just my 2 cents
> >
> >
> >
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