On 02/15/2013 09:13 AM, Camille Moulin wrote:
Le 14/02/2013 17:34, Robinson Tryon a écrit :IANAL either ;-) and yes, I'm not surprised that in the US nearly everything is copyrightable, just like nearly everything is patentable. In France, the situation is slightly different. You don't have copyright over a picture that doesn't bear any originality (good example : http://www.legalis.net/spip.php?page=jurisprudence-decision&id_article=3578 (sorry it's in french) )On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Camille Moulin <camille.moulin@alterway.fr> wrote:CC-By could work, but it's less convenient. And also, it's supposed to bejust correct technical picutres of their products, so I'm not sure theyactually would be copyrightable: proposing them a CC-BY would suggest thatwe actually consider them as copytightable (and I'm personnaly againstspreading this idea). CC-0 is more like "we don't think it's copyrightable,but just in case".IANAL, but I believe that even reference pictures of objects are generally considered copyrightable in the US (which is where the two companies are based). I'm not so familiar with the legal situation in other countries. Here's a brief blurb from Wikimedia that seems relevant:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Image_casebook#Utility_objectsSo, I think that if we accept a licence other than CC0 for this kind of pictures, it's like accepting this extent of the copyright (which is wrong IMHO).If you haven't already read it, I would recommend you this post :http://tieguy.org/blog/2013/01/27/taking-post-open-source-seriously-as-a-statement-about-copyright-law/ I really like the phrase "the pernicious assumption that you must always ask permission before doing anything with anyone's work, because nothing is ever simply shared or legally usable". For our situation, I think it's a favour for a company to have its products featured on libreoffice's website, even if the brand's name has been removed and actually, that's the root of the problem: people are unhappy with the present design because it somehow promotes Apple, eventhough there is no apple logo, nor any occurrence of the name. That's why I would recommand that we use ZaReason pictures and not the ones of Systems 76.Cheers, Camille
ClarificationIn the US works are automatically copyrighted upon being finalized. Copyright registration is optional in the US and does make it easier to prove infringement and get larger damage awards. This means that copying someones photo from Facebook could, if US Courts have jurisdiction, be copyright infringement.
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