[libreoffice-website] Licences for trivial pictures (ex. Libo4 Pages: new version 20130211)

Le 14/02/2013 17:34, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Camille Moulin
> <camille.moulin@alterway.fr> wrote:
> > CC-By could work, but it's less convenient. And also, it's supposed to be
> > just correct technical picutres of their products, so I'm not sure they
> > actually would be copyrightable: proposing them a CC-BY would suggest that
> > we actually consider them as copytightable (and I'm personnaly against
> > spreading this idea). CC-0 is more like "we don't think it's copyrightable,
> > but just in case".
> IANAL, but I believe that even reference pictures of objects are
> generally considered copyrightable in the US (which is where the two
> companies are based). I'm not so familiar with the legal situation in
> other countries.
>
> Here's a brief blurb from Wikimedia that seems relevant:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Image_casebook#Utility_objects
IANAL either ;-) and yes, I'm not surprised that in the US nearly 
everything is copyrightable, just like nearly everything is patentable.
In France, the situation is slightly different. You don't have copyright 
over a picture that doesn't bear any originality (good example :
http://www.legalis.net/spip.php?page=jurisprudence-decision&id_article=3578 
(sorry it's in french) )

So, I think that if we accept a licence other than CC0 for this kind of 
pictures, it's like accepting this extent of the copyright (which is 
wrong IMHO).
If you haven't already read it, I would recommend you this post :
http://tieguy.org/blog/2013/01/27/taking-post-open-source-seriously-as-a-statement-about-copyright-law/ 

I really like the phrase "the pernicious assumption that you must always 
ask permission before doing anything with anyone's work, because nothing 
is ever simply shared or legally usable".
For our situation, I think it's a favour for a company to have its 
products featured on libreoffice's website, even if the brand's name has 
been removed and actually, that's the root of the problem: people are 
unhappy with the present design because it somehow promotes Apple, 
eventhough there is no apple logo, nor any occurrence of the name.
That's why I would recommand that we use ZaReason pictures and not the 
ones of Systems 76.

Cheers,
Camille

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