Re: [libreoffice-website] What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

Hi,
On 12/12/2010 19:33, Narayan Aras wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> > That there has not been much content on the site surely is not the
> > fault of silverstripe. I'm very disappointed about this as well, but
> > the reason is that almost nobody did provide content to put up on the site.
>
> Frankly I don't understand why the site should have almost no content (this has nothing to do with 
> CMS).

This is the contrary, Christian said that the content has not been 
develop for the www.libreoffice.org website. Not that it should have no 
content. Thanks to David and Italo, we will have this site very soon now :)

> Why does it not have blogs, wiki and forum? (they get filled up by visitors; not content-writers.)

ha, may be because there is wiki and forum elsewhere already?

> Why does it not have marketing pages? (there are not left to casual contributors.)
I was on my way to ask for an l10n.libreoffice.org, may be this is 
something to discuss, but we should ask on the list first?
> In fact, the SC should have used the sticky threads in forum to convey roadmaps and 
> progress-reports to visitors.

Why the SC should have done that ?

> Note that each type of stakeholders (coders, documenters, website-makers, LibO-users) should have 
> their own forums.

We have already our mailing lists, no needs to duplicate the info 
vectors imho.

> Therefore SC can post separately customized messages for each target segment.

We do not need to post message to anybody, message is here since some 
time, just take it.

> The website also can have static pages such as FAQ created by SC.

Why should we create a FAQ, every body, each community has the 
possibility to write a FAQ
> That would remove any confusion in people's mind, and better attract the contributors.

I don't understand your point here.
> I haven't seen anything worse than mail lists (especially for latecomers).

ha, but that's the only way for people like me to contribute, sorry.

> Despite wading through hundreds of posts, all they get is various conflicting opinions (not 
> official decisions).

Could you give an example here? It seems that the EN site has some 
delay, but some other sites are ready to go, so decision has been taken 
already :) And we have take the Silverstripe option, so the decision is 
made also. Now, I don't know how it is called in english, but we may 
also study other solutions, something like a technological prospective. 
Unfortunately I don't have the skills and the time to develop them, so 
I'm confident the community will be able to answers with tools 
corresponding to our needs, QATrack is one of the best example :-)
> One such example is whether we will migrate to Drupal at all.
> Everyone has an opinion. But what's the official stand

For the moment, we are working on Silverstripe. We are a very very large 
community and hence have very different needs, QA, l10, docs come at the 
topf of my mind. Our community is not new, it comes with a past of work 
and usage.
We have already some tools we are using for very specific purpose, we 
have some language teams that have some scope and needs that are very 
different from others. So the decision of a CMS has not to be taken on 
the next 5 minutes. I, as an SC member, understand that Drupal is able 
to do everything, I quite very well know Drupal members in the 
francophone community and know also how they are passionate. It's great, 
but actually I would only like it to do what I need and it does not seem 
the case. For the moment Silverstripe is doing all what my (meaning the 
one I belong, not the one I own) group needs, so yes, that will 
influence my vote.
> Such far-reaching issues can be explained through FAQ or sticky posts at forum.

I still don't understand what you miss
> Then the authors and contributors would know whether spending effort after Drupal is worthwhile.
>
> THIS IS TERRIBLE.

No, I don't think so. Just go to the different groups and ask what is 
needed. And see if what is already used fulfill the needs or if there is 
another better tool where this group should invest time and money to 
work with.
The other way is to let them ask, and try to adapt the technology. 
Nothing terrible here, just life :)

Kind regards
Sophie

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