Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Proposed changes

Hi Cédric,

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Cedric Bosdonnat <cbosdonnat@suse.com>wrote:

> Hi Mirek,
>
> I started on these, and after some investigations there are points on
> which I don't fully agree.
> ...
>
> * Remove the selection mode button, have selection mode activated
> > using right-click or long tap on any of the templates, show a "Done"
> > button on the toolbar when in selection mode for deactivating the
> > mode, such as seen on Android or Gnome [1][2][3].
>
> If you check carefully the Gnome Documents application, you'll see that
> the "Selection mode" button is there too... which makes sense: otherwise
> nobody will think of right-click to select items.


As said on the IRC chat, the selection mode is meant for touch input only.
It would be activated using right-click if the operating system
automatically converts a long-tap into a right-click (as I don't have a
tablet, I have no way to test this).
Long-push to select is a standard on all of the major touch-based operating
systems, so it should be discoverable for tablet users.

Mouse users will select objects using an on-hover checkbox, just like in
various web applications, and the Marlin and Dolphin file browsers. They
won't use the selection mode.

>

To keep consistent with that idea, we may not want to show the check
> boxes when hovering on items, but only in selection mode.

Not sure what you mean by this.

> I'm also pretty annoyed by that pseudo-Macos look of the filtering
> buttons... couldn't we have something less inspired from some
> OS-specifics?


Fun fact: the filtering buttons were based on Gnome's new design approach
[1] -- nothing to do with Mac OS X. I was assuming that it is a standard
GTK+ widget, as the widget plays an important part in Clocks + some other
planned Gnome applications, and that the GTK+ guys already have a way to
theme it based on the OS.

However, as it turns out that it's not that simple, I'd definitely agree on
adopting a regular tabbed widget instead.

Changing these buttons into something less
> visually-imposing would also give some more importance to the Selection
> Mode button.


As above, please keep the Selection mode button hidden.

> Any quick though? Remember that you asked me to enable it as
> non-experimental feature for 4.0 and we need to come up with something
> definitive soon ;)


> > [1] http://home.cofares.net/androidDocs/design/media/action_bar_cab.png
> > [2]
> https://lh3.ggpht.com/-Ce7kNdwCJZQ/TgTCr7YIkeI/AAAAAAAABsY/dyVf-ETvZ8k/s1600/gmail_context.png
> > [3]
> https://afaikblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/device-import-actions.png
>
> Regards,
> --
> Cedric
>
> [1] http://afaikblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/clocks-worldtime.png