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Hi Alex,

On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 16:37 +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
I already mentioned my concerns about LO on OSX with regard to the
not-so-good looking transparency preview effect of the majority of the
templates (the only ones that look good IMHO, are the presentation
templates) and to be honest, the whole button filter thing
selecting/unselecting, reversing out or up the template hierarchy has me
lost. Also, pressing Esc to make the dialog disappear is not
particularly intuitive (it might well be on a touch screen that has a
back button/swipe, but I can't think of anywhere else in LO where that
is the case).

Could you help me see what you mean for the transparency preview
problem?

For the selection mode, I agree this is not really obvious. May be we
need a better icon there to explain what it is all about.

For the ESC to quit the dialog, don't worry, this is a bug I need to
fix: not by design.

The problem is that this is the only dialog in the whole program that
behaves this particular way as far as I can tell and it sticks out like
a sore thumb.

Yes, I fear we are introducing something too different from the rest of
the application...

I fear that there is no real "middle-way" at the moment though, what
with the UIs being so different between OSX/GTK/Windows, so I guess that
latitude for change is somewhat limited. On OSX, most GTK apps look like
they are a relic of the 90's. Even the massive Gimp project has only
just released a native OSX application (sept 2012), most of the other
GTK look n feel apps currently available were built for Leopard (10.5)
or earlier and remind the user of the dread X11 or Quartz UI.

Well, I'm not sure I can improve that and I have no MacOS X to
understand what you mean.

Possibly, whatever happens, OSX people are going to moan that the app is
becoming more and more X11-like, and this won't be helped by the fact
that Glade was chosen to further dialog-UI development, even if it is
converted to VCL.

Hum, Glade is there only to create XML files we can parse to replace the
old SRC files. At least now, we have a visual editor and can get rid of
the old absolute-positions layout.

Could anyone from the design team come up with a Glade file to help me
fix the problems of that dialog? It would also be a nice occasion to
switch the template manager to the new layout code.

The problems I want to fix:
  * There is no visual separation between top buttons, toolbar and items
view. The color on the mockup is nice, but something that fits with
platform theme is needed.
  * Get rid of those selection buttons (they don't even work properly
ATM)
  * Better icon for the Selection mode.

FYI, what I currently have looks like this on Gnome 3:
http://people.freedesktop.org/~cbosdo/template-mgr.png

Just a side note: I managed to find time to work on this... if I can't
get that fixed quickly, I'll have to put it in experimental features
again. We have until Jan. 7th to have a fixed UI and I'll be away from
Dec. 22nd to Jan. 6th.

--
Cedric


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