Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page

The detail is interesting, and also helps to understand the context. I'm more familiar with page 
styles than with sections, but a quick search suggests that sections will do what you need. If your 
changes in the number of columns always occur at page breaks, page styles might be more elegant, 
but whatever works for you ... :-) Good luck with getting your father's poems printed the way you 
want them.
- Robert

________________________________
From: Keith Jackson <kmjackson@sympatico.ca>
Sent: March 19, 2024 12:55
To: W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. <robert.funnell@mcgill.ca>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org <users@global.libreoffice.org>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page

I wanted to avoid defining page styles since this requires, I assume, switching back and forth 
between styles on some pages and is more sophistication than I want to get into.  Also it would 
require me to thoroughly understand styles.

My father, or maybe my stepmother, had typed in his collection of poems years ago on a semi-fancy 
paper and assembled them into a “book” held together by a cerlox binding.  He gave copies to his 
sons and daughter and possible to one or two other family members or family friends.  I’m trying to 
retain the appearance of his pages in my digital copy.  Unfortunately, my father died in 2018 so 
asking him about any of this is impossible.

I had planned to type and enter his poems into a text document of some kind years ago but entering 
it all by hand was onerous since I’m not a touch typist and I stopped this endeavour.

But more recently I have discovered that OCR (optical character recognition) has improved vastly 
since the last time I tried it.  I discovered, while doing something else, that I could photo the 
pages of his book with my cell phone, then use Google Lens to select and copy just the text from 
these pages. I mailed the text to myself. Then saved the text into page files (rtf (rich text 
format) files) and the text was preserved and there was almost never any extraneous characters.

Because this capture process lost the line structure of the poems, I had to edit every page file 
and re-establish the poem line structure.  That’s all done (including correcting some minor 
spelling and grammatical mistakes in the process) and I am now trying to assemble the poems into a 
single Word document using LibreOffice.

My ultimate plan is to use this file to print copies of his poems into hardcover book copies.  One 
of my brothers has lost or misplaced his copy of the cerlox book already.  I know there are 
relatively inexpensive places to get a small number of books like this printed so I will distribute 
his poems to family members and possibly friends as a more durable medium for his poetry.

Sorry for the detail but just thought you might be interested.
Another person was very helpful and suggested using sections for the 2 and 3 column pages.  So, I’m 
going to try that approach since it sounds excellent.

Keith



On Mar 19, 2024, at 12:18 PM, W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. 
<robert.funnell@mcgill.ca<mailto:robert.funnell@mcgill.ca>> wrote:

Keith -

Have you considered defining 2-column and 3-column page styles? Press F11 to see the Styles 
dialogue; click on the icon for Page Styles; right-click on 'Default Page Style'; and click on 
'New'. There's a tab for Columns. When you want to switch page styles, you can do Insert > More 
Breaks > Manual Break. Then select 'Page break' and the desired style for the next page.

- Robert

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Sent: March 19, 2024 11:56
To: Mike Flannigan <mflan@mflan.com<mailto:mflan@mflan.com>>
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org> 
<users@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>>
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page

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Thanks, Mike, for your suggestion.

I had 3 ideas actually based on what I saw in the LibreOffice Writer manual.
I wondered if Frames, or Sections, or Tables were the best approach since it looked like any of 
these might work.
Having 3 tables side by side on the same page might work but I think text for that page would have 
to be manually inserted into the tables and it wouldn’t flow automatically from the first to the 
second and to the third table.

I wasn’t clear on the application of frames or sections to do this which is why I thought I’d ask 
the support email.
another person wrote me and basically suggested a section as the best solution.

But your suggestion was much appreciated.

Thanks,
Keith


> On Mar 19, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Mike Flannigan <mflan@mflan.com<mailto:mflan@mflan.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Setting individual tables that are left aligned, or center
> aligned, or right aligned may be a good option.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 3/19/24 09:06, users+help@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users+help@global.libreoffice.org> 
> <mailto:users+help@global.libreoffice.org> wrote:
> > users_59192.eml
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page
> > From: Keith Jackson <kmjackson@sympatico.ca<mailto:kmjackson@sympatico.ca>> 
> > <mailto:kmjackson@sympatico.ca>
> > Date: 3/18/24, 20:57
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> > <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
> > You may have seen this question many times so I will apologize in advance for asking it.
> >
> > I have a Writer document formatted as docx.  It will contain some of my father’s poems but I 
> > have a need on a few pages to have the poem appear in two or three columns on a page continuing 
> > from the bottom of, or a specified point in, the first column to the second column and, in one 
> > case, to a third column.  The text must not wrap within each column because it is lines of 
> > poetry.
> >
> > Can you tell me the best way to do this?   I’ve checked the manual and have some ideas but would 
> > appreciate someone guiding me to the best  method to do this.
> >
> > Thank you for your time in advance.   Oh, and in case it is important, I am using LibreOffice 
> > 7.3.7.2.
> >
> > Keith Jackson
> > Toronto, Ontario, Canada


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Thanks, Mike, for your suggestion.

I had 3 ideas actually based on what I saw in the LibreOffice Writer manual.
I wondered if Frames, or Sections, or Tables were the best approach since it looked like any of 
these might work.
Having 3 tables side by side on the same page might work but I think text for that page would have 
to be manually inserted into the tables and it wouldn’t flow automatically from the first to the 
second and to the third table.

I wasn’t clear on the application of frames or sections to do this which is why I thought I’d ask 
the support email.
another person wrote me and basically suggested a section as the best solution.

But your suggestion was much appreciated.

Thanks,
Keith


> On Mar 19, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Mike Flannigan <mflan@mflan.com<mailto:mflan@mflan.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Setting individual tables that are left aligned, or center
> aligned, or right aligned may be a good option.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 3/19/24 09:06, users+help@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users+help@global.libreoffice.org> 
> <mailto:users+help@global.libreoffice.org> wrote:
> > users_59192.eml
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] putting text in 2 or 3 columns on a single page
> > From: Keith Jackson <kmjackson@sympatico.ca<mailto:kmjackson@sympatico.ca>> 
> > <mailto:kmjackson@sympatico.ca>
> > Date: 3/18/24, 20:57
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org<mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org> 
> > <mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>
> > You may have seen this question many times so I will apologize in advance for asking it.
> >
> > I have a Writer document formatted as docx.  It will contain some of my father’s poems but I 
> > have a need on a few pages to have the poem appear in two or three columns on a page continuing 
> > from the bottom of, or a specified point in, the first column to the second column and, in one 
> > case, to a third column.  The text must not wrap within each column because it is lines of 
> > poetry.
> >
> > Can you tell me the best way to do this?   I’ve checked the manual and have some ideas but would 
> > appreciate someone guiding me to the best  method to do this.
> >
> > Thank you for your time in advance.   Oh, and in case it is important, I am using LibreOffice 
> > 7.3.7.2.
> >
> > Keith Jackson
> > Toronto, Ontario, Canada


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